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There is lots of information available on pursuing threesomes with your girl but little on convincing your girl in the first place. I have only been with a few openly bisexual women and am definitely still learning. Bisexuality in women is now one of my requirements for anything much more than a one night stand. Of course the sex is better with bisexual women but this is not the only reason. I have found bisexual women to be much more fun to hang out with, they are not needy (e.g., jealous of other girls), they are open minded to much more (not just sexually) in most parts of life (although some can be extreme in liberal thoughts not open to anything they consider conservative). In fact, I currently have a bisexual FB that I enjoy hanging out with more than I enjoy the sex with her.
IS THIS WHAT YOU REALLY WANT?
OVERVIEW
YOUR BELIEFS
THE METAFRAME
BE DISCREET
RUN THE RELATIONSHIP
PUSHING HER SEXUAL BOUNDARIES
EXPECTATIONS
NORMAL CONVERSATION
CONTROL HER SEXUALITY
EROTIC LITERATURE
PORN
After you get better with the sexual hypnosis and she is comfortable with it you can hypnotize her without the literature/movies. Like the literature/movies you will probably want to start with non lesbian fantasies then ease into it. Narrate a hot story that you read together or make up a new one. Describe one of the girl scenes when your girl came (this very well may be one of her favorites). Ask her if if she can imagine four hands caressing her body at the same time. Wonder aloud if it is different for someone to be licked by a girl versus a guy. Ask her what it would be like for her cooch to be licked at the same time she is getting her nipples sucked on. Talk about the way a girl was looking at her earlier. State “aren’t you a lucky girl, its like you are being pleasured by two people” when you are doing multiple things at the same time. Etc., etc., you get the idea. But be careful not to do this all the time like you are obsessed though. Remember this is for her pleasure and it is her fantasies that you are describing, not so much your fantasy. Although you can also describe your fantasy in sensual detail of her being pleasured by a woman to show your support. Ask her what her favorite movie/story parts were and have her tell you about them. If you did it right she will repeat a bisexual fantasy but if not don’t worry about it, her imagination will soon lead to that. Just lead her to more of her horniness as she gets closer to girl-on-girl fantasies.
DO NOT BE DISCOURAGED
SUPPORT HER CONFUSION/FANTASIES
STRIP CLUBS
THE DEED
First off, you should ask yourself if this is what you really want. This all sounds very good but if are in any way the jealous type than this is probably not a good idea.
The following is how I changed my ex girlfriend into becoming bisexual. This was huge progress for me because it made me realize that not only can I change my own beliefs but I can change others beliefs. Of course ideally it is much easier to start off with a girl who is already bisexual but unfortunately this girl was totally anti-lesbian to begin with. The following is completely different than the pick-up game that we all know of. The work is done up front over a long period of time rather than the "sarge". In fact if you set it up right the pickup skills for threesomes requires less than pickup skills for twosomes (since the women will do some of the work for you). This is more about relationships than anything. The following are approximately in order but in reality they are mixed together. This is a long term game that can take months if not years. If you are truly not into the girl then it may not be worth it. But on the other hand it doesn’t hurt to try if you are in such a relationship anyways.
First off, you have to install beliefs in yourself before persuading others to believe. A good belief to have is that all women are bisexual but most women do not admit it due to cultural suppression. Here is some scientific evidence supporting the fact that all women are bisexual. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/06/030613075252.htm
The metaframe of turning an LTR bisexual is that it is for her--not because you are some horny pervert. The thing you have to be most careful about is controlling jealousy issues. You are simply expanding her sexual experiences to that which she never imagined before. The entire process should occur in her head without you forcing it upon her or her thinking it is your idea. Sure you can help it along but she needs to believe the enjoyment comes from her fantasies. If she asks what you think, then agree with her that you think it is hot but do not overexcitely/explicitly state this like the horn dog you are without her asking.
A person's sexuality is a very private thing. The world does not need to know what you do together. Judgments from others is perhaps the biggest factor why women do not act on their sexual urges (in the same way they do not want to be found out that they are sleeping around a lot and labeled a slut by others). You have to have her trust that you will keep everything very discreet. You do not discuss your sexual experiences together with your mutual friends (although she may bring these things up to her friends do not do so yourself). A women that is bi-curious is not enough. You have to lead her so that her desires become stronger than her fear of judgment from others. You can also work on her beliefs that people will not judge her and even if they do it doesnt matter (i.e., her self esteem).
Obviously you should be the one that runs the relationship. I dont mean that she necessarily does everything that you tell her but that you hold more power than her. You have to be congruent in your suggestions. If you are her bitch, she is not going to consider your ideas.
You have to always be pushing her sexually. I don’t mean pushing her in a way that makes her uncomfortable. You want her to be excited about trying new things. New positions, toys, crazy games, public sex, anal sex (not what I am personally into), etc. By always introducing new and exciting things she will learn to look forward to new things. Be able to control when she gets hot. You want her to be excited about taboo sexual acts on the edge of cultural norms. After adding typical new adult things then it will be completely normal of introducing the idea of bringing another women into the bedroom.
In order for her to let loose on her fantasies, make it clear that these are just fantasies and do not suggest that you will someday actually do this. Support any fantasies she has, not just the girl-girl fantasies. Tell her that her fantasies make you hot to encourage her. Of course you will naturally make each other hotter on the fantasies that you both have.
The topic will start to come up in normal conversations. Do not do these all at once but rather small bits in various conversations. If she jokes or makes fun of lesbians tell her there is nothing wrong with those desires. Be supportive in any freudian slips that come up. You can joke/tease with her about her having bi curious thoughts but you have to be very careful if you do so. Definitely do not make derogatory remarks about gays or lesbians. I even sometimes give a true routine about how my uncle is gay. You need to let her know there is nothing wrong with whatever fantasies she has and that it is completely normal. When girls are looking at her in public tell your LTR that the girls are checking her out. State this as a fact e.g., "that girl thinks you are hot" and leave it at that. When she is looking at another sexy girl then tease her (in a positive way) that she is checking out the girl. Ask her what types of girls she likes. Ask her if she had to be with another women who would it be? She will often say "well I would never be with another woman but if I had to it would be...".
Control her orgasms. Tell her she will not cum until you allow her to. This reinforces the fact that you are in control. You control when she is hot (this is essential for the next few paragraphs).
Buy her some erotic literature. There is tons of such literature out there oriented towards couples and/or women. “My Secret Garden” by Nancy Friday is great for her to understand that her fantasies are completely normal and to encourage them. In fact some of these stories are completely fucked up and will make her fantasies seem tame. Because of that I would suggest this for her own reading / understanding or her sexuality than for reading it to her. For reading to each other, try any of the other couples fantasy literature of short stories. By starting off with stories about others it is not about her so her defenses will be down. But she will in time fantasize that the stories are about her and she is experiencing them. The short stories are key so you can read an entire fantasy (and multiple fantasies) in one sitting. Do not start with all explicitly lesbian erotica but some of the stories should have some of those stories. Start reading to her in bed. After she is comfortable get her to masturbate as you are reading. By using the tonality and speed of your voice you can control when she climaxes. You want to get to the point that she climaxes during the girl-girl peaks of the stories. You are essentially sexually hypnotizing her at this point. Sexual hypnosis is perhaps the most powerful form of hypnosis and you can get away with virtually anything when a woman is having an orgasm. But do not betray her trust. This form of hypnosis is very easy to do—I know very little about hypnosis but this comes very natural when both you and the girl are in that sexual state. In fact if you are reading a story then you have the script and you only need to focus on your timing and intonation.
Start with soft porn and make love during the scenes. You can act out some of the parts. When she starts to enjoy movie night you can start adding movies with lesbian scenes (although the entire movie should not be girl girl). Position her so that the she is facing the tv so she cant help but watch. Most importantly, focus upon her instead of you yourself watching the movie. Have her lean back on your lap and tell her to watch the scenes as you finger her. Tell her to imagine that she is the one in the movie being licked. After you do this a couple times, go down on her so that she is focusing on the movie (where the woman is being licked by another woman) as you are licking her. Put a blanket over your head so she will focus upon the movie instead of you. Tell her to tell you what is happening during the scenes. Her describing the scene does two things: 1) you know when to make her cum when the girl in the movie cums and 2) she is describing the movie in her own head so she is fantasizing about it more.
She may occasionally put up a defense by denying her thoughts. Do not argue with it but do not believe her. Be congruent in your beliefs that all women are bisexual and that is normal and ok. Things were progressing very nicely with my ex LTR when she explicitly told me she would NEVER be with another women. If she is denying it she is thinking it. We were starting in on her first threesome in less than an hour after she told me this.
When she starts questioning her fantasies then you can send her the all women are bisexual study link (the same as at the top of this post http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/06/030613075252.htm). Email her telling her that you found an interesting article and that you are curious about her thoughts on it. In no way imply that she is lesbian. Women do not want to be categorized. Just because she gets her box licked by a woman or even if she likes to lick others does not mean she is lesbian. She just enjoys being pleasured and pleasuring others.
Start discussing strip clubs. You can joke about this. For example she might ask what plans you have for after dinner. You can say "we are going to a strip club!". Say it so that she is not sure if you are joking or not. Believe it or not she may be curious and excited to know what actually happens in strip clubs. I have jokingly said this in groups of girls before with no expectation that they would actually be interested and the women get really excited about going. Start off with the idea that this is normal for straight couples. In fact you can send this article to your LTR: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/sh/dating/stories/dating-146184220020515-120527.html
Many strip clubs have couples night one night a week. These nights are more low key and will make her more comfortable and feel normal as other couples will be attending (and not just a bunch of horny guys). Once you are there make sure she is always comfortable and pay much more attention to her than the other girls. This is absolutely essential that she does not get too jealous. Please do not be that couple where the guy is staring at ass while his girlfriend has a grimace on her face and she is only doing it for him. That couple will not be going again. Focus on getting her horny (especially when she is looking at nude women) so she starts to associate nude women with horniness. Get her hot by whispering nasty things in her ear of what you are going to do to her later. The sex will be amazing after returning from such a club. You want her to equate hot sex with strip clubs. Probably not the first time, build up to her getting a lap dance. Do this after you have gotten her hot. Hold her hand and whisper in her ear dirty things when she is receiving the dance (if appropriate). She will not be able to help but getting wet and she will equate her horniness to the girl.
At this point, bisexuality will be clearly in both her subconscious and conscious. She will be thinking about it more and more and open to the idea. You will notice her getting more sexual around other women (you can see women gunwitching each other-it is very obvious). You want things to progress very naturally at first without explicitly talking about it much. E.g., She may make subtle suggestions to her friends. Do not get excited at these times—remember this is completely normal. In fact remember these are her ideas in her mind, not yours so you do not want to encourage it too much. The desire needs to come from within herself. If she suspects you are “tricking” her into these things then you are in trouble. So you might even choose to ignore her suggestions sometimes. You can discuss things such as pulling a girl home with both of you but only when it naturally comes up. After her first experience then you can incorporate that memory into her fantasies. For example, tell her to tell you about the girl going down on her (or whatever) and what it felt like as you are going down on her. Ask her how it was different from a man instead of a woman. Tell her that it was hot watching how she squirmed like spaghetti when the girl made her cum. Interesting that I have found women to cum MUCH quicker when I talk about a woman going down on them. But do not overdo this all the time to the point that you are obsessed with more threesomes. After a while you can make it a part of your lives and can actively discuss plans of pulling girls home. At this point you are ready for the mass of other resources readily available on how to pull threesomes (e.g., do a search on amazon.com).
