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Here are a list of tactics for REALLY LOUD clubs where people are dancing and you can't hear yourself talk. I'm talking about DJs with decks and huge speakers, raves, doof parties etc., not bars with background music where there are defined "sets" to work.
Things to know about clubs/events like this:-
* They are HARD environments. They are by far harder than bar situations. This is because of the music, lighting, distractions, everything really stacked against you. Clubs aren't impossible to pull from, but don't raise your hopes in these environments. Treat the club like a PU dojo. You go there for training and to have your ass handed to you. When you leave the club, regardless of how well you did, your daygame will usually improve dramatically.
* Distractions. You have loud music, flashing lights, LOTS of competition. All of this is designed to throw everyone's sense of reality off-balance, and you have to work around this to your advantage.
* Women who go to these places are usually more messed up than women who frequent bars. Whereas women might go to a bar to meet a guy to take them home, women who go to clubs basically go with the intention of getting freebie attention and drinks from horny guys who want to feel them up on the floor. Or they use it as a place where they can feel self-important by blowing every single guy off. Then you have perpetual party chicks who have ADD and can't seem to focus on anything other than their own (lonely) good time, excluding you (or anyone else for that matter). You can FULLY expect women in clubs to try messing with your head. With most chicks in this environment, a club is NOT a fair seduction fight, so you have to use everything at your disposal in these places with extreme prejudice.
* Drugs. I won't lie to you - loud music and dark environments make the perfect location to do shady deals. It goes on, no point hiding it. You will meet some pretty messed up women who are into it, and then you will run into crack-whores who will gravitate to guys who have the stuff. How do you compete with this? (more importantly, why would you want to?)
OK, so remember next time you are in a really loud club - the deck is heavily stacked against you in these environments. Even naturals have problems in these places (I've seen them burn out too) so don't feel bad if you can't seem to make any headway - or end up making headway that ends up going absolutely nowhere. Your game has to be watertight.
Now for the real advice:-
* Peacock yourself in a club. Use the distractions of the music and lighting to your advantage by making yourself stand out from everyone else. The more whacked out the better. You need to look like the club is your natural realm. The women there are looking for flashy things, so be one.
* DON'T DRINK, and more importantly DON'T DO DRUGS. There are multiple reasons for this. Being under the influence of something is going to hamper your mental functions in a club - and you will need your wits about you.
Drugs are illegal anyway - don't get mixed up in that. DON'T rely on drugs as a crutch to make you loosen up or feel comfortable in a club - and here's A VERY IMPORTANT reason why. Apart from being expensive, EVERYONE ELSE is going to be pretty fucked up anyway. No matter how awkward you might feel, NOBODY will notice because they are messed up on alcohol or something else anyhow! Give yourself some slack! I once went to talk to some chick to find out she was on ecstacy... needless to say, she was like a kid and I was like a candy store to her. She must have been having a great time, but to me her behaviour was quite vulgar and a real turn-off.
* Dancing. Keep it to a bare minimum. It's good if you can dance, but generally dancing makes you very sweaty (yuck) and doesn't impress women in clubs. The reason is because the women who generally go to clubs are almost pre-programmed to come into the club and expect guys to impress them by dancing - so the seductive effect dancing would normally have is mitigated completely thanks to your audience.
* If you dance, dance for yourself... (don't face women and try to dance with them)... or just go out and get yourself mashed and forget PU completely, but don't be surprised when other guys come over and think you are a good dancer... not what you intended right? The last thing you want to become is the "soul train reject"... out on the floor having a great time.... minus the women.
* If you are going to dance, and there is a good to huge number of people, and you CAN dance, use it to your advantage to meet people. There are two steps to doing this. Head up to the DJ booth (if it is at eye level) and FACE the crowd (who usually face the DJ booth in general) and then upstage the DJ! (or performer) by dancing like you just don't care. Then, still facing the crowd, go backwards through the crowd trying to meet as many people as possible on the way. You have that extra recognition from the upstaging event, making ice breaking THAT much easier.
* With sufficient lubing up, you can dance with chick. DON'T MAUL HER. You may get away with feeling her up on the dance floor, but show some restraint or her ASD will kick in and she will ditch you later - claiming that she was just having some fun with a random guy she wasn't serious about. Plus, women in clubs are mostly desensitised to dancing and getting felt up every week anyhow, so it means NOTHING!
If you dance together, simply hold her hands and look into her eyes. Keep up the NLP. You can kiss as well, but usually club makeouts have tended to mean nothing - whereas in any other situation they have generally been on the path to a lay. I dunno, but there's something about club chicks where they overuse their tongue..... somebody fill me in, but the tonguedown is just way too common.
* Beware of what is commonly referred to as the "liquor stripper". She's dressed like a vixen and will dance like a freak and let you feel you up a bit... but then she wants to stop at the bar so you can buy her a drink. You should NEVER buy women drinks at clubs anyway - but beware of this particular tactic so you know what to do when it's tried on you. Chances are, you won't run into this piece of work if you aren't trying to feel women up on the floor anyway - but just FYI as to why getting too physical too soon is usually not a good idea in a club.
* Talking in a club is near impossible with the music. Don't be temped to lean into women though and whisper in their ear. Gain eye contact first, and then speak at them despite the loud music. At this point it doesn't matter what you say to them, you could just say "eat my funky donut gorilla" and they won't hear you. They can't hear you, but they will see you TRYING to speak to them, so what they will do is lean into YOU in order to hear you! Right where you want them.
* Talk with as many people you can in the club. Don't avoid ANYBODY, man, woman, anyone. Talk to EVERYONE. You need to look like the most social person there - which will reflect well on you. The 3-second rule applies to everyone - man, woman, security, DJ, anyone.
* Figuring out what to say in a club is half the battle. First, what not to do.... Everyone is dancing and having a good time with all these distractions - why should they listen to you? What interesting thing do you have to say? Why would a girl want to hear what you have to say to her? Most people resort to talking complete bullshit - made worse when they are drunk/high/whatever. The girl has probably heard a million pickup lines before too, but even a line on her is better than trying to formally introduce yourself or ask (GASP) "What do you do?"
* Despite Ross Jeffries completely hating on sarging in clubs, NLP is probably the most effective thing to use on women in a club when you talk to them. Flat out NLP isn't normal in a normal everyday setting usually (its a bit weird) - but a club ISN'T a normal everyday venue! It's a place where your state is dramtically being altered, so using flat out NLP is interesting in this environment. ALSO, you need to effectively change a woman's state on the drop of a dime, and this is why clubs are challenging. PRACTICE YOUR WEASEL PHRASES. RJ's seminal "How surprised would you be to actually find yourself really enjoying spending time with me?... maybe up to the point where you can picture us having a really good time together?" is actually a GOOD opening line in a club. You need to push these junkie chicks through a pile of emotions, so you have to do some planning to make sure you are pushing the right ones on them that make them feel sexy, powerful, in love etc. and link them all to you. This is realistically all you can really say to women in clubs and get any response. Be mindful about what you say in clubs and the states you push women through with whatever you say. The music makes your communication very brief, so you HAVE to be incredibly effective. You will also have to PLAN a lot of weasel phrases to use, so when you are in the field you can come up with them on the fly - making you talkative and spellbinding at the same time. The general idea is to use a weasel phrase followed by what you want her to feel or imagine, followed by a command. (E.g. "Have you noticed how great you are feel dancing with me?"... arrogant as hell normally, but completely valid in a loud club environment with freaky women. Don't take your eyes off the goal, and that is to have her feel romantically and sexually pulled into you. Your choice of words should reflect this.
* Best thing to do is to get her to dance FOR you ... this is a huge pimp move, and another reason why you should keep your dancing to a minimum. Find a place to sit and encourage her to try and turn you on. Again, rely on your NLP weasel phrases to get her to do it: "I don't if you can imagine how much fun it would be to stand here and dance for me, but the more you think about it, the more you may notice that you have the courage to try it"
Remember that the aim in the club is not to "cop a feel", but to hijack her mind despite the other distractions, and make her putty in your hands. You pull this off - and you are socially proofed completely.
* Isolation. You can just drag a chick somewhere quiet because you can't communicate with her properly on the dance floor. A few false starts at communication will make this possible. Another thing to do is to use a photo routine. Having a digital camera is a great thing in a club - because you can get to display high value with pictures, video, without requiring a voice to explain. Or you can use this as an excuse to isolate her so you can tell her all about your pictures.
* Numbers. In addition to the million and one pitfalls in the club, club chicks are as flakey as hell when you get numbers, and they often just want to call you to go to the club again. So aim for the lay. After a lot of practice with NLP, and a lot of rejections under your belt, you won't feel so bad trying to pull all kinds of sexual stuff off on them - which ironically increases your effectiveness.
You should always aim for the same-night bounce and then lay, because numbers are generally worthless. Mind that you have to deal with drunk and messed up women who are not in the position to give consent, so keep an eye out for this. Fortunately since you didn't take any drugs you should be able to get a woody pretty easily.
If anyone has any other tips on working clubs, please chime in!
