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Original discussion thread: http://fastseduction.com/discussion/fs?action=9&boardid=2&read=86638&fid=173

Okay, first off.. Ijjjji, totally agree with what you said in that thread "realising ease of PU", and I intend to follow it. But for now, the topic is different than "how to" of seduction. Its about sharing some experience, outside of PU.

So, now thats out of the way!

Baddog

Just messing with ya..
I think some people are just ITCHING to get some shit off their chest.
And since you can't really "take the gloves off" by just barging in on someone elses thread, I think its about time we discuss this.
Both for entertainment, and for some healthy passionate debate.

The topic isn't aced..
Its love

And all those things "associated" with love.

A great man once said "There are many paths to the top of the mountain, but in the end, there is only one summit.. And its love"

And perhaps by arguing about love, we can all put our pieces out there, including aced, community experience or other points of view.

I know baddog, has been itching to have people discuss something like this from "different professions and talents, artists, poets, scientists.. blah blah blah".

So heres the chance, not only to speak about love in the sense to relationships, but regarding other aspects of life aswell.

I wanna see arguements, I wanna see controversy, I wanna see some healthy debate about all this stuff, IN THIS THREAD.
That way people can gain a larger view, and pick and choose the things they like. So.. To start the debate, I'm gonna challenge aced!

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Acceptance
Compassion
Empathy
Detatchment

Only issue I have with aced is this..

Pious, ivory tower, love in = inability to truly connect with others on human level

You just end up connecting on this holier than though level.. Where you empathise with others pain.. etc..

I think:

Acceptance is bullshit if you think others require it because they lack it.
Compassion is bullshit if you think others need it because they are in trouble.
Empathy is bullshit if you think you even CAN truly understand others.. And empathy is TRULY heartless if you get sucked into other peoples problems.
Detatchment is.. well.. better..

- Acceptance to me should come from, KNOWING OTHERS DON'T NEED IT...
(this means I am happy to fight them)
- Compassion to me should come from, KNOWING OTHERS DON'T NEED JACK..
(So that means, I ignore them)
- Empathy to me should come from, experience, and realising we are always suprised by the universe, and are thus stupid..
And that means, there emotional tirade is
a) Stupid
b) Unnessecary
c) Boring
d) Where can I find some food?
(because at height of empathy, you realise that only way to help others is to be what they cannot be.. to lead.. and to not look at people like "poor little idiot, I'll help you!")(height of empathy, is "fuck you, get your own damn cheeseburger, this one is MINE!!")

Who do you think connects more with people around them.
A pious priest
or
a) A guy that challenges them (acceptance)
b) Ignores them and moves onto better things (compassion)
c) Laughs and smiles at the silly things they do and say (empathy)

Seriously guys..
We don't wanna be pious
Its really not cool

To truly accept you must CHALLENGE OTHERS.
To truly be of compassion YOU MUST IGNORE.
To be of empathy you must ENJOY AND LAUGH.

Sounds stupid.. But without that, it looks Pious.

TIP:
Piousness, I've found, tends to come from "this view is RIGHT IN MORAL ABSOLUTE WAY"..
So you NEED to chuck in a bit of "hahhaa, I'm actually thinking about doing evil things to you right now" to counteract, piousness. Or some form of "challenge, ignorance, laughter, wrongness".

Like for example:
I'd find aced really cool, if you kept saying "this is what you shouldn't do"
Then you just kept pulling chicks
I'd laugh my fucking ass off!

I'd hate to see you become a boring old fuddy duddy!
With those weakened and brittle bones, that too much pious morality brings.

Look at it this way..
Who has more fire..
Guy that is willing to challenges a guy that tries to beat him up, with knowledge that the more he challenges him, the more he accepts him.
Or guy that is like "Wait! I love you! Please stop!"..

(shudders... gugh!!)
Anyone can be pious, takes a real trooper to actually challenge a guy, and thusly show both of your true selves.

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So what the hell is with this aced crap?
How exactly does that help anybody in life

Not only do I think its useless, and weak
I think its immature, pious, AND unoriginal.
And I don't think it has anything to do with love.
But is rather actually, just a weakly vieled attempt to solve everything with one solution, so you don't have to challenge yourself as a man, and can just hide behind ivory towers.

Easiest route is to fight from the moral high ground.. Most rewarding route, is to fight from where ever the fuck you want on the hill, and still succeed!

(puts up gloves.. alright, lets E fight!)
(oh yeah, and anyones take on love, is totally welcomed too.. cuz we can fight about that shit too)