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Recent post by StaticID, November 12, 2008

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Since starting practicing pickup at my uni with my new wing
I’ve opened 37 sets mostly in night/bar game and some lone wolfs at day game
After all these approaches opening is a lot easier and my AA is not really and issue anymore

I’ve been sarging at the next closest uni to mine, so I don’t have to worry about seeing friends during a sarge, C&b’ing on Hb’s that I might meet later in the year or alienating my self on campus as “that pickup guy”
I learnt this from ‘Braddock’ at a L.S talk a while back where he said u should not do cold approach on your campus

The main Openers I have been using are:
- is it true all girls secretly find Gordon brown attractive?
- is it ok to get a compliment from a stranger?
- do I look like a drug dealer?
- Hi
- Hey Guys
- Is it cheating if a Gf kisses another girl?
- I need a female opinion…

I’ll start with the fun part…mistakes!

1) I have opened sets that my wing had already opened using the same opener he just did
The 1st time this happened they laughed and said
“Ooooh, I’ve heard this one before”
I thought “oh shit” and said some stupid stuff about how I was bet to do it and I got the hell out of there..
I did laugh about it with my wing afterwards thou

The 2nd (and last) time this happened I handled it alright, as it was an opinion opener I could just say something like “I was talking about it with my friend did he already ask you?” then just continue with it.

2) I have forgotten an opener half way through using it
It was a long opener asking if they saw the fight outside...etc, I read that somewhere

And while I was struggling with it she said
“Is this a chat-up line?”
I responded with
“Nope, im gay” (I don’t know why…!?!)
Looking confused she said
“your gay?”
She then grabbed one of her guy friends and said to him
”here’s one for you”
I was like.. WTF??!!??
So I ejected, I did LMAO thou..

3) I have been in sets that were going very well, im seeing IOI’s, they are asking questions about me, im doing body language», tonality and E.C well
But I was answering the questions with lies, and these lies stood in the way of me getting a close
When I was doing one of my 1st day games on Oxford Street there was this 2 set that I could have #closed the target, but I had said that im not from London!?! (which I am) and am there just for the day…(I live there!!)
I realised this and so ejected with out going for the close
I think I did this because I was in the mindset that “this is one of my 1st sarges, im not expecting to get a close, just open and talk to some Hbs, doesn’t matter what I say”

I did this again during my 1st night game at that other uni I sarge at now..
I said all sorts of crap, to all their questions and left the set not being able to close the target
I should have gone for it anyway..

4) I’ve ignored some obstacles instead of trying to disarm them and have had them
cock blocking

5) Have missed out on number closes because of nerves/AA feelings, when I can see there are ioi’s from her

6) My kino is very limited, handshakes and some shoulder touching
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I already know a lot of P.u theory but from opening all these sets I’ve gained experience and learnt lots more...

1) Female opinion openers are good at hooking the set,
BUT nearly all the Hbs I have opened with them just loved giving their opinion and advice, in some sets they have focused on the opener for AGES trying to learn all the details
I know this is bad because ur meant to get of the opener ASAP

So I now counter this by doing the best friends test on them once they are hooked and stacking forward with negs and fluff talk etc
trying to stay away from their need to give their opinions
(That best friends test is Gold!!!, all the sets I have used it on really love it, it always gets a laugh)

2) I now know never to say “excuse me” when opening sets in night or day game
I just say “hey guys”, which also counts as a neg apparently!? calling them guys

3) I can now spot ioi’s easily in set

4) I learnt how to stop in transit sets, (hard to explain) it like a stop signal with your hand that you hold low on your body, so that subconsciously she sees it and stops.
I learnt this from Clutch (lss) and it works EVERY time, ive never had a moving set not stop..

5) I’ve learnt the opener doesn’t really matter,
I have opened a set successfully by blaming the credit crunch on them and telling them off about it..

6) AND… im a lot more relaxed, confident and in control in sets
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So…..
I can open sets easy and get ioi’s, I am definitely ready to start getting #closes, so I am going to push myself to close and get over the fear that’s stopping me from asking, im going to study kino escalation and force my self to apply it and I am going to start qualifying the targets once I have seen ioi’s!!

When I have opened over 60 sets, I will hopefully be reporting lots of #closes

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