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Now, I'm not saying that you simply walk along, do nothing, and girls grab you and fuck you in a side alley. Well, that might happen, and if that is you, more than likely you won't be reading this anyway, but I'm talking about generally being a guy who women seem to want to have sex with.
I'm not talking about every women, but on average a fairly high percentage of the female population would like the idea of having sex with you, if exposes to you for a certain amount of time. I thought I need to clarify that, because it could easily be mis-interpreted.
Now, I've seen guys that were fairly good at pickup, but it almost seemed like they had to do all the work, and often almost trick girls into logistics. They had a wide range of techniques, and tricks, and this and that, and pretty much had to take responsibility for it each step of the way, and had to push it, and really had to make most of the "work" and stuff "happen".
Then there is a different guy, where the girl seems to escalate on him, lines up logistics, pretty much verbally agrees to sex prior to sex, and consciously knows and goes along with sex happening, and breaks all those kind of pickup rules we have about the male-female dynamic and the women's resistance to casual sex.
One of the big turning points in my game is that I have gone from being one guy to the other. I went from getting action having to do all the work, to getting action where i barely try at all, and women seem to almost hound me a bit for sex, and will line up logistics and do much of the work. So this proves it isn't looks, nor this or that, and it is possible for every guy to achieve this. This coming from the guy who went our nearly every weekend for 5 years and never picked up once, to a guy who can pretty much pickup every time I go out, if I want to.
So how do you do this?
Much of the pickup stuff is centered around getting girls to have sex with you, which is great, but this takes it to a different level. This is a bit different from "flipping the script" as it happens much quicker. By quicker, I mean women seem to want to have sex with you before you even talk. All you have to worry about is not talking them out of it, which I've seen many guys do.
I've thought about it, and these things will help:
- Make less effort, try less, do less, and make the guys around you seem like they are working much harder. I'm scared the KJs may read this and then use it as a reason to go out and do nothing, but this is for advanced guys. Guys who can approach, pull, and escalate, if you can't do that, reading this thread may make you worse.
Get other guys to approach, and try hard, and generally aim to stay as central as possible so guys come back to you where you are stationed. Give people money to buy your drinks, get guys to bring girls to you to meet you, and aim to make less effort than the average on the stuff guys normally do to get girls like trying to be different, and this is a reason I now dress so casually, never wear jewelery, look fairly normal, certainly not like a player or pickup artist.
- There is this dynamic of (1) self-acceptance, (2) personal integrity, (3) self-talk, (4) self-image, (5) comfortable with personal sexuality, (6) self-belief - thats seems to radiate out of you. Its the way those things make you stand, make you talk, make you walk, and effect the muscles in your face, and neck and jaw, that women can sense immediately.
- Its doesn't hurt to be a little shy, innocent, and vulnerable at times. I've found that being these things can really help, it gives a woman a feeling of power, dominance, and that seems to make her have way less resistant and if you can be fairly down to earth you can be very disarming.
I'm not sure how to explain it, but guys who don't know me, sometimes think i am not that good with women. i dont join in the usual conquest stories, dont seem to give off a massive player vibe, and dont try to be all super extroverted or externally confident all the time. But when in field i destroy them. I think that when you can really pull dressed casually, with no bells and whistles, it really gives you powerful game. I think that the guys who are REALLY pimps and are super naughty players, would never outwardly give too many hints they are so naughty, because women would be suspicous of them, I've kind of learned that the kind of criminal anology is often correct, the worst type of criminal doesnt look like a criminal.
Not sure if that made complete sense, but for women to really escalate to sex and want to fuck you and go for it, often its with guys who are not pushing it to the maximum. Sure they are escalating, and moving it forward, but its almost like instead of pushing the women down the path she is wantign to go down the path. He's creating an expectation of what he expects, and she does it, its like an invisible type of compliance, where she feels compelled to do waht he wants, even when he hasnt said what he wants, she just knows.
- what you do when not with girls, is extremely important. i dont train guys to be fake actors. who you are, and what you do with your time, is extremely important when you are with girls in-field. the mirror never lies, and if you can really be proud of your life outside pickup times, this will radiate.
- you are low maintenance at times. you have an ability to spend time with women, and for it to slow fairly quickly, and without her needing to think too much. this is a little taught skill. the guy women want to have sex with is often a guy who they enjoy simply spending time with, he may not even be that interesting, but he's not painful. its almost more important not to be painful, than to be interesting.
seriously, you simply are not that demanding, you may not be a super-star but you are pretty easy going, and chilled, and beign with you is kind of like a people holiday. this is different to teh nice guy, who is submissive, this is more a kind of guy who knows who he is, but doesnt need to prove it. he's socially well trained, and simply doesnt make social mistakes.
ive kind of got this belief that women want to have sex with men. generally women would have way more sex with men, not if they did all this STUFF, but simply if they stopped doing retarded stuff. I think thats a pickup community problem, people learn stuff that is a bit socially retarded, which gets attention, but you often dont need to stuff, you just need to avoid makign errors. its almost like women really want to be picked up, but as long as its done properly, but most guys dont know what properly is, to women its common sense, but to the average guy its complex.
So its almost like women wanting to have sex with you is the NORMAL PLACE. Getting sex but doing all teh work, is almost like you are doing stuff wrong. I think that when i read advanced and see stuff that requires a fair bit of a time to memorize, or learn, or remember, or think about, its almost like you are fucking up your chances of getting to the place where women just fuck you fairly quickly. ive actually gone out a fair bit and watched women, and they are way more predatory than guys.
The game becomes a fair bit easier when girls seem to want to have sex with you.
