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Recent post by carpe_diem, December 20, 2008

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1. The concept of "value". many types of pickup is based upon the idea that her value is up here, and your value is down there. what a fucked up way to think, and having a core mindset like that will mess up every level of game you have.

studying self-esteem they point out the concept that in low self-esteem people often feel self-worth and value something that moves up and down based upon your life experience, but in high self-esteem people, self-worth and value is a constant that stays at a level no matter what happens. i think this is an important core value you want to instill in yourself.

if you want value, understand you already have value. you have a cock, she will never have a cock, and she needs one to be sexually fulfilled. thats all the value you need. you dont need to give value, or take value, or increase your value, or decrease her value. thats all an awful way to think about pickup and life that will cause you to attract shallow hollow women who believe in value too, probably measuring value on your bank account. i love how i seem to attract the most genuine real women ever and i think my core belief that everybody has equal value is what makes that happen for me.

i cringe whenever i hear the word "value".

2. attraction. i hate attraction based game. again attraction based game is based upon the mindset that you dont have attraction naturally and you need other stuff to get a woman attracted to you. again its like a core belief that "you" on your own wont get enough attraction, so you need other stuff to get a woman to like you. thats like core belief cancer.

as well as that attraction is so fleeting. attraction from women is such a hot and cold concept that can be massive one minute and gone the next that its just too unreliable to rely on. get compliance, compliance is way better than attraction. lots of people are attracted to each other but never fuck, but compliance leads to her doing stuff for you, like sucking your dick. compliance> attraction.

i hate the whole concept of getting attraction. you are a man, she is a woman, thats all the attraction you need.

3. complex shit that requires too much thought. i read threads here with complex shit that is hard to remember. i have a bad memory, and i hate thinking during pickup. my game is completely instinctive, and i dont think at all during pickup. i struggle to believe anyone is advanced that has to spit out some page long script during pickup. unless you are a memory genius that shit is conscious, it requires thought.

learn to have total freedom during pickup.

4. guys who have major crutches who think they are good at pickup. if you dress like a sailor, rock star, hero of some sort, and need that to get women, then you are not amazing at pickup. if you can pickup wearing normal clothes with no gimmicks then you are good.

if you need routines or scripts or stuff to get girls, then you are not good at pickup. if you can get good results just doing without thinking, then you are good. if you as a person with no help or tricks or whatever can pull, then you have got it. drop all the shit and see how you go. whos better pickup? i guy who can pickup every weekend just being normal or a guy who is a member of a band who get groupies?

the hunt is what makes pickup fun. i love the challenge of having no help, and no advantages, if pickup becomes gimmick and crutch based, i cant see how you will feel good about it, or how you would get as much enjoyment out of it, as someone who shoots fish in a barrel. maybe im old fashioned, id rather fish with a line and bait than a trawler, i like the elements, and putting myself up against it, and failing, and being only me and pickup, its like artificial help only cheapens the experience for me.

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