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My style is that of the hunter. I hunt for win/win scenarios in all areas of life, from business to personal. This thread being about women, I will stick to the personal. So long as you create win/wins, you are making the world a better place for others and can trust the people around you. A win/win in SNLs is finding a women who's down for SNL, comfortably leading her through the process of meeting to fucking, and making her feel emotionally positive in the moments following the lay. A hunter knows what he's looking for and what he has to offer. He knows how to recognize what he seeks. He knows how to select, approach, qualify, unite, excite, and seduce others in a way where everyone comes out on top.
I am relaxed, in control, confident, motivated, honest, genuine, and selective. Others describe me as laid back, chill, cool, low key. I am not a party animal or an entertainer. I do not need an audience. I do not prefer to be the center of attention, though I am comfortable being so when necessary. I take pride in having a very cool, clean style, not over the top but well above your average guy. I am well groomed, in shape, and have a positive attitude that I like to spread to others. I lead a full life, and I am successful at all times in life by staying focused on the big picture. Every failure is another step on the road to greater success. HERE'S THE DEAL: You must be confident», in shape, and have good style to pull off this type of game. This is for guys who's first impression is one of high value. If you are lacking in any of these areas and aspire to this style of game - start fixing them!
I select my girls before approaching. When I first enter a new venue I like to scope things out rather than dive right in. I'm an eagle soaring above everything around me, with absolutely no need to immediately seek attention in the crowd. When I see a girl, my first thought is: given only her physical appearance, would I sleep with her? Most girls are an immediate NO as my standards are relatively high. If she's a yes, then I like to scope her out for a bit. I learn a lot about a girl in just a few minutes of watching her, I start to pick up on her overall vibe. If I pick up on any characteristics that I know I don't want, or get a bad vibe from her in general, I have saved myself wasted energy in an approach that would lead nowhere. My game doesn't rely at all on stacking up a large amount of interactions to build social proof, so there's no point in approaching a chick that doesn't physically qualify for my cock. If I do stack girls for social proof, they're the two or three girls in the place I'd actually fuck, and the social proof is a side effect of my determining which one I like most rather than the reason for my interactions. If I like what I see, I approach.
Very often a girl notices that I'm looking at her before the approach. In fact, I like her to see me checking her out first. This is good. I want her to see me qualifying her pre-approach, deciding if she is indeed someone I'd like to spend my time with. I'll often notice her behavior change ever so slightly as a bit of self-consciousness washes over her. This is also good. She's wondering about me and why I'm checking her out, a little tension is arising, maybe even slightly sexual if she finds me immediately attractive. She LIKES being noticed over all the other girls in the place. Once I start talking to her, she will learn that I was determining whether or not she was worth approaching, both letting her know that I am genuinely attracted by her vibe, and setting me up as the prize and her as someone needing to prove herself.
My approaches vary, but are usually direct and simple. "Hi" is most common. Followed with "having a good day today?" unless an obvious situational opener presents itself, or if I'm in the right spirits I'll go with "what [the fuck] are you doing here?" as if I've known her forever in another context and can't believe I'm running into her here of all places, in an obvious flirty manner. I've also gone for a straight kiss opener a few times, usually having them turn away laughing. That doesn't bother me though, I expect them to turn away and I'll say something like "I'm glad you didn't just kiss me. You don't even know me. I like a girl with standards." If they challenge my standards back for attempting the kiss, I say "I wouldn't have actually kissed you! I'm not making out with some chick I don't even know!" or "You looked cute, I couldn't help myself!" In high socially proofed situations I've pulled off a full makeout opener several times, but this is usually because the girls already somewhat know me, or know of me at least. Any number of openers will do, go with your style here, I've noticed that what you say to open hardly matters at all. Sometimes I'll also do straight eye contact game, you can have fun making eyes with a chick before the approach, and extend it to the approach and even continue it face to face for a bit before talking, the opening usually being shared laughter and her being the first to say something.
I determined at the screening stage that the girl is physically hot enough to fuck, now I need to determine whether her personality is cool enough. I've taken home some messed up chicks before, and I definitely have no need for them anymore. There are too many hot girls with great personalities to waste time on a dud, plus, cool girls WANT to be recognized as cool, especially if they're hot, as most dudes only focus on the hotness. Occasionally I'll get challenged on an approach. This is a good sign, and I'll reward it with positivity along the lines of "Oh you're calling me out? Haha, I like that! You looked like you'd be pretty cool, I'm glad I came over here." I rarely get challenged though, my selection process eliminates a lot of that. The trick to this stage is keeping them talking, and reward the things you like with touch, flirt, compliment, or tease. "Having a good day today?" seems to get them chattering away nicely, often not even about their day. From there, I'll exercise normal conversation-making skills for a bit, while rewarding. I'll talk just enough to keep them talking. If a girl is really shy and gives too many one-word answers, I next her. I'm the silent one, and I need a bubbly confident feminine counterpart. I see many different conversational styles working here, for example here's where you'd insert cocky/funny, negs, flirting, banter, genuine conversation, or whatever your personality style is. I can see nearly anything working, so long as you're charming and you're qualifying and rewarding her.
One of the keys to this stage is to REWARD HER COOLNESS WITH HORNINESS. Her coolness should TURN YOU ON. You want to set a sexual tone from the start of the interaction, even if very subtile. You can start with excitement rather than horniness, like "wow, that's actually pretty cool" when she says something you like, building to "stop being so cool, its turning me on" as she inevitably displays more of the behavior you're rewarding, onto "I'm glad such a cool girl has such a nice ass!" w/ ass smack and growl.
You may also meet her friends during this phase. Just be cool and flirt with them too and they'll usually have your back.
Another idea you want to put out there is that you and she are a hot couple. She makes you look good, and you make her look good. "We" establishes you and the girl as a singular entity. Chicks are hardwired to think that way, they can't even go to the bathroom without a partner, so its good for you to set yourself up as one of her "we" entities early on. "Hot" is the nicest possible way of saying "fuckable." Look for ways to drop things along the lines of "we are hot" during the qualify/reward stage. Its a good safe way to begin establishing and ramp up the sexual tension connection.
"Flirting" is a fun way to ramp things up with a girl, and is a big part of my conversational style. Flirting to me mean there's an obvious unspoken game going on, that neither the girl nor I are actually saying what we mean, but we're having fun together playing this game. Its a powerful, fun technique that can be used a lot of ways. For example, a cloaked neg flirt can easily lead to quick physical escalation: "yeah that looks great on you. . sort of" leads her to "oh yeah, only sort of?" with a physical push. You can then grab her and pull her in acting offended "why you gotta assault me for just giving my opinion" while looking deeply in her eyes, then push her away with "get away from me, you're too violent." She follows with "yeah I'm really violent. You should be scared of me" and on and on. The game has begun! All of this is said in an obvious "we're playing" style. Any decent flirt knows what's up, if a girl actually gets offended then she's not a good flirt. Calibrate accordingly. I've found good flirts are also good at handling thick sexual tension, so flirting early on is a reasonably good way to qualify of how good they'll be in bed, though there are exceptions. Flirting can be taken to the point of having long drawn out interactions where neither person has said an honest thing about themselves in the whole conversation. Remember this Levi commercial I posted a while back? They had flirted all night, had kept running with their stories, and now the truth comes out. Notice how little it matters. That's the power of flirting. Lots of fun.
During the qualify/reward stage, as she's getting you horny by being such a cool girl in such a hot package, it can be good to do a mini isolation. As a reward, I'll lead her somewhere more private in the club, or even just pull her just 5 feet away from her friends, just something to set up a bit more intimacy. This is where I introduce a more sexual or suggestive touch like pulling her close and looking into her eyes. Sometimes I'll kiss her at this point, other times kiss her cheek, other times push her hair out of her face. This is also a really good time for the flirty push/pulls I wrote about above.
Around this time is when I'll usually notice the hook point. The hook point is the moment she first thinks "yes, i'd probably fuck this guy." Note that everything up until this point can be fully accomplished within 2-3 minutes, or can extend somewhere 10-20 minutes. It all depends. Learning to recognize this moment is important, as it is the moment of the best possible first impression. At this moment, or very soon after, I'll break rapport and leave her. She goes from having the best moment of her night with a guy she's just mentally made the decision to potentially fuck, to being alone where I isolated her. This demonstrates to her how much better off her night is with me there than not there, and makes her want me back with her. At this point, she'll pump up her own horniness for me more in my absence than if I were there, running around asking her friends what she should do and all that. There are a lot of different styles to breaking rapport. Mine is to excuse myself to take care of some other business I have at the club, usually to "check up on my friends." This reason works well for me as it demonstrates I'm alpha and looking after my people. A girl wants a guy that looks after those in his care.
If its early in the night, I'll often have other clubs to bounce to. Its good to have multiple venues to hit in any one night, the fact that you have to bounce 3 times in a night adds a sense of urgency and importance to all the interactions with girls, upping your perceived value. I rarely bounce with her. I'll re-approach, flirt a bit w/ high tension, then tell her I have to bounce, and ask her if she'll still be here later, that I'll try to come back before the end of the night. This leaves a nice open loop while you're gone. She'll usually offer me her number, which I get and begin to occasionally text, escalating however I can, while at the other clubs. I've found its way easier to get a girl home with you towards the end of the night than the beginning/middle. Early in the night most girls still want to party with their friends and get validated by all the douchebags. Better to keep her warm till near closing, when her friends are buzzed and they've been talking with her all night about whether or not she should go home with me. I then swoop her up at end of the night, or text her to meet me at a restaurant or street corner, and carry her off to my place.
If I'm not bouncing to another club, then during this time away I'll go have fun with my friends, or scope out another girl, whatever really. I'm not sweating the girl I was just talking to too much, because I can go out anytime anywhere and meet another hot chick with a cool personality. I may or may not end up with her, and I don't really care right now, there's other stuff to do. At some point, maybe during the break-rapport point with another chick, or after I'm bored with my friends, I re-approach her, usually with very strong IOIs from her. In fact, most often she'll re-approach me. At this point assume high sexual tension, YOU WANT EACH OTHER! Very little has to be said now outside of flirty stuff, eye contact, kino, and some fun push pull. Mini-isolate to a secluded spot in the club and begin makeout session. Any real conversation at this point is pointless, you've already both qualified each other, now its ON! Now, I don't usually do bathroom or club fucks (unless I have the green room to myself - brag brag), but if they're something you'd like to go for, now is the time. I personally prefer getting a chick home where I can fully enjoy her nakedness and roll around with her all loud and shit. 3 minute bathroom fucks don't do it for me anymore. Its not really that much fun outside of the conquest feeling you get when compared to an exhausting night of high tension sex on a nice comfy bed with mirrors and music.
At this point, I'll give the girl any reason at all to come home with me that's not obvious. "We should have the next drink at my place, I live 3 blocks from here." A good 7 out of 10 times she's down. If she's NOT down, I'll push for it a little, but not much. Sometimes I'll break rapport again, often to bounce to my 2nd choice, but if that doesn't work I call it. I'd rather not deal with LMR or some shit, and instead close her for a potential day 2. Maybe she'll be lucky and get my day 2 call, or maybe the chick tomorrow night will be even cooler and I'll never think of her again. The ball is completely in my court. If she's down, bounce to either yours or hers, and . .
The final escalation. The ripping her clothes off and fucking the shit out of her escalation! I'll start making out with her as soon as we walk through the door, with my hands lustfully and immediately on all her girl parts. Then I'll pull back a little, take the furious tone down a bit, carry her to my bed, and slowly stroke her body with the light touch of one finger. I'll go down, then I'll take their head and push them down. I mean. . at this point its all sex. You just go with what you feel. What I'll say is, nearly all girls love a guy who uses them exactly as he wants the first time he fucks them (within limits of course, you can't beat the girl). They get off on YOU getting off on THEM for the first fuck. Make sense? If you want to be a good first fuck, enjoy being in the moment with the hot, cool, naked chick you landed for yourself, and using her to pleasure yourself however you please.
The first 15 minutes after you fuck a girl for the first time are very important. Handle them right, and you'll never get buyers remorse. Girls often go from being completely out-of-their-mind-horny for your cock to feeling like complete and total sluts in a very short time. This is a good time for genuine compliments and a good sense of realness, then back into some flirty conversation. Holding, lightly touching, rubbing, etc are all good too. You don't want to roll over and pass out, or kick them out right away. Make sure they're ok, in the end they're just poor weak little creatures with a hole between their legs, its your job as a good man in the world to make the situation a win/win and leave them feeling good.
EDIT:
Lay Reports Containing this MO:
http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=4&mn=1216681068495962&refine=subject%3D%26author%3Dpureevil%26datefrom%3D%26body%3D%26dateto%3D (2nd report. MO stretched to day 2 because of logistics)
http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=4&mn=1220945561506617&refine=subject%3D%26author%3Dpureevil%26datefrom%3D%26body%3D%26dateto%3D (some steps skipped through social proof)
http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/fs?action=9&read=89808&fid=24&BoardID=2#532304 (2nd report. The MO is stretched out to day 3)
To begin, I'm pulling this off perhaps one in four or five of non-socially proofed nights out in a huge city, which ends up averaging to an extra lay a month. My goal for the end of the year is to pull this off 4 out of 5 nights out. I'm certain this goal is obtainable, as every single non-socially proofed SNL I've ever landed, outside of fool's gold, has followed a version of this MO. Getting it down on paper is a step in upping my percentage as it clarifies things for me, and I figured it worth sharing as its very well field tested. The "under 30 minutes" is the total time spent with the girl, not the amount of time being out. I'm open to any suggestions for fine tuning and improving.
My Pickup Style:
The guys who this will work for:
Selection:
The Approach:
Qualify/Reward:
Establish "We Are Hot"
On Flirting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSliLKGs5js
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Mini-Isolation:
The Hook Point / Breaking Rapport:
Re-approach and Assume High Sexual Tension:
Full Isolation
ESCALATE!
Cleanup
