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Recent post by DirtyD, January 30, 2009

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I had all kinds of CRAZY things happening to me when I got my first few phone numbers from women: they never picked up the phone, it turned out they forgot who I was once I called them, I got an endless stream of friggin’ annoying voicemails, I choked up and was too nervous to talk once I DID manage to get them to talk to me…yeah I SUCKED all right.

But I also had a few “incidents” because of phones themselves: girl A was sitting on my bed ready to have sex, I had to to go to the men’s room, I came back and...got my phone thrown to the head because of girl B’s naughty text message - and I never slept with both in the end. I did perfect my duck and cover skills though, lol!

Until all of this changed..strangely enough NOT because I kept on trying to set up a date over the phone (I actually started to fear the phone), no. My “Phone Game” RAPIDLY increased because…I started working in a callcenter.

There I was, talking to almost always aggressive customers with my sales pitch..but it was sell to them or be FIRED. Imagine what that does for your tone of voice, your phone conversation skills, your timing and so on…a LOT..which I applied to the women I got the contact info from immediately.

If it’s possible for you (and if not, do it on the side during the holidays just so you’ll LEARN)..go and work in a callcenter for a week or two and see what happens to your Phone Game, because on an average day? You talk to 10 or more people PER HOUR, which is 80+ people per day…so after two weeks you’ve had the chance to practice during more than 1100 phonecalls!

Because of it, I learned quite a few things about how you can PREVENT a lot of crap (voicemails, no calls returned, flaking women)…and afterwards I only had ONE woman stand me up via the phone in 2 years (while I meet new women every week):

The way of asking for her number flake
Both men and women like to be seduced, but they HATE playing games. If you get a girl's phone number, how is she supposed to know what you're going to do with it?

Will you call tonight, tomorrow? in 2 days? in 3 days? And simply, the longer you wait when you didn't tell her what you would do with it...the more she thinks you're playing games. And so, when you DO call or text, she'll think aha! Two can play that game..and there you go: she flakes on you and either never picks up or replies, or leaves you hanging when on the first date by never showing up.

So what I do is: I TELL her what I'll do with her number. "I have to go do some stuff now, but I'll call you tomorrow evening."

- She knows when to expect it, does that kill the sexual tension? No...because the evening is from 5 p.m. to I dunno..1 a.m. or something? So she's still anticipating the exact moment of your call, becoming nervously excited about it but..
- She KNOWS you're not playing games now, and 9 out of 10 times it means she'll be happy to talk to you (because you’re the one guy who’s clear about his intentions and not into childish games)

And if you really want to create anticipation for your call and enhance the sexual tension, simply include “maybe” in that same sentence: “I have to go do some stuff now, but I’ll call you tomorrow evening..maybe” and either wink at her, give her a slight smile or say it in a playful way..and she’ll MORE than understand…

The voicemail flake
The when should I call her dilemma is a major one, and an ancient one...because YOU can't tell if she's busy right now from where your standing. And leaving a voicemail, while hardly anyone listens to it anymore these days? Isn’t a smart thing to do wouldn’t you agree?

And one of the BEST ways of preventing the whole “there’s no answer” or “help! I got her voicemail” drama is…sending her a text message and when she replies with a text of her own? You call her within 2 minutes after receiving her reply. This way, you are absolutely, 100% sure that she’s AVAILABLE…or she wouldn’t sent you a text message. If you call her the second you get her message, she’ll think you have been waiting for her reply all day…which makes you come across like the neediest, most desperate wussy EVER, so that’s why waiting just a little while is a smart thing to do.

I NEVER leave a voicemail, I call once and hang up if there's no reply...and text her the day AFTER that. Why? What if she doesn’t reply to your voicemail, are you going to call her again and leave another one? That’s STALKING her dude and it creeps her out, because if you call someone and they don’t pick up? They already SEE that you called (thanks to that handy “missed calls” thingy), so leaving a voicemail would be overdoing it because you’re letting her know you called TWICE for every voicemail you leave. Don’t be so desperate.

Final note
It always depends on HOW you got the number too. All af the above will certainly help you, but lets be realistic here: if you only get some numbers off of drunk chicks, they wont remember you the next day. And if you was standing around them all night being the boring douchebag AFTER you got their number, chances are success with Phone Game WON’T happen anytime soon…but that’s not because of the phone, that’s because of YOU.

So I propose a “hit and run” strategy: go in and approach her, create attraction, keep the conversation going, and leave right after you’ve asked for her contact info...so you’ll leave her wanting more, so you leave when the attraction is at it’s peak and she’s highly interested, so she’ll wonder why you’re leaving so soon while you two had lots of fun…which only MULTIPLIES the chemistry you already had going.

Oeh, I just remembered another nugget of gold! If you’re having difficulty to smoothly call her without being nervous, anxious or running out of things to say because you’re not “prepared” or “in the mood”…then why not do a warming up? Call a couple of good friends BEFORE you call a woman, joke around with them, tease them, talk about some outrageous and crazy stuff..so you’ll be in a happy, playful mood and feel open to talk about whatever, whenever. And THEN call her.

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