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..."Or what my dogs have taught me about female psychology"

I was talking to a non-community friend the other day. Average nice guy. Married, kids, etc. Going through separation and divorce.

I told him, "You know anything about dog training? No? Read up on it. There is a lot of dog training that applies to women."

A good place for any guy interested in mLTRs or even exclusive LTRs is to watch the Dog Whisperer. Watch Cesar Millans body language^». Being the alpha male^» to a pack of dogs is NO DIFFERENT than being the alpha male^» to a pack of females.

Some points:

- Dont treat a dog like a person. Treat a dog like a dog.
Corollary: Dont treat a woman like a man. Treat a woman like a woman. My friends wife wants to "talk about our situation" but "today isnt right. Lets talk on Sunday". I told him, "Fuck that. First off, as soon as you start "talking" about the relationship, you're fucked, because women are incapable of holding a logical, honest discussion about solving a problem. Also, SHE is telling YOU when and where things are supposed to happen. Fuck that. YOU tell HER when and where things are supposed to happen." Most guys apply the rules of logic that would work on other guys to women. It doesnt work.

- Be the alpha male^».
I have 2 small female dogs and after studying dog behavior I began to see just how much they see me as their alpha male^».
For example, in a dog pack, the alpha ALWAYS goes first. Thats why a dog trainer NEVER lets a dog pull him along on the leash. The dog walks BESIDE you, never in front of you. My little dogs wait for me to go, then follow me...because Im the pack leader. I eat first. Then they eat. Also, dogs who are not raised appropriately will suffer from separation anxiety. The ONLY dog allowed to leave the pack at will is the leader. When you come home, ignore the dogs for a few minutes until they calm down. Dont be all lovey and affectionate when you return. Thats THEIR jobs. The alpha can ignore them until he feels like acknowledging them.
Corollary: You come back from a trip or even a day at work and she is jumping up and down, "I missed you so much!" Damn right she did. Acknowledge her, but dont return the affection. Go get some coffee, sit down, take a minute, then "Come here baby" and then rub her and kiss her. What effect does this have? On an instinctual level she knows that you are alpha male^», because alpha males dont get all lovey-dovey and affectionate just because some chick is.

Again, watch the Dog Whisperer: the dude is totally unflappable. He never gets excited, he never gets upset. This is quintessential alpha male^» behavior.

- The leader has responsibilities.
Corollary: You can have as many women in your "pack" as you want, but you must take care of them. That doesnt mean financially (although it can, if you want it to). It means that you are the man they turn to when they...need a man.
Example: My ex gf, to this day, makes all her decisions after consulting with me. It took me a long time to figure out why she would do this, even though she has a boyfriend. The reason is, I'm MORE ALPHA than her boyfriend. Even though we are not a couple, in a sense she is still part of my pack. I will ALWAYS take care of her (to an extent), and she feels this on a very deep level, even though we have never spoken of it.
Also, taking care of your pack means you must fuck them. Note that this is DIFFERENT than fuck buddy rules. A FB is NOT a part of your pack. She has not earned that right.

Jetsetjims rule of Alpha Male^» mLTRs:
You must be able to fuck each female 3 times a week. Thus, if you feel you can fuck 2 different women every day, you can potentially have 4 mLTRs. Realistically, most men are not able to handle more than 2 women at a time, unless one is LD or he has a very very strong libido. You can have FBs, because they only require dick once a week. But they wont have the benefit of being taken care of the same a pack female (mLTR) will have.

Women who are getting alpha male^» cock 3 times a week, and who are getting alpha male^» attention on a daily basis, will generally be happy, submissive, and compliant.

When I say alpha male^» attention, that means you must talk to her on something close to a daily basis. Think of it as the busy executive checking in with the Vice President in Charge of Fellatio, and then the Vice President in Charge of Anal, etc.

BUT

Do not let that become her calling you all the fucking time "just to talk". You're the CEO. The CEO takes calls from the VP when she has an issue, not when the VP wants to chat. The VP, OTOH, LIVES for the CEO to call and say, "How's things going? Any problems? No? Ok, good job, lets do lunch tomorrow."

Now, does this mean you can have a woman follow behind you when you walk down a street? Wait until you go through the door first? Wait until you eat, then allow her to start her own meal?

YES

Now, you guys are saying, "No fucking way dude. No woman is going to tolerate that." Wrong. I HAVE SEEN IT HAPPEN. If a woman will let a guy beat the shit out of her, you don't think she will put up with some minor shit like that?
When I worked in the middle east, women routinely stood up when I walked into a room, would NEVER walk in front of me or next to me, and would wait until I left the room to follow me.

Now, thats a cultural thing, and I am NOT suggesting you implement any of this stuff in your own mLTRs. But it gives you an idea of what is possible. Women WILL be submissive and compliant if YOU are alpha and dominant, and you TREAT THEM LIKE WOMEN and not like men with pussies. However, you can subcommunicate a LOT of this stuff. Take her hand and LEAD her through a crowd. I never like a woman to walk in front of me. I never hold a door open for a woman and let her walk through first "like a gentleman should". HOWEVER, if its cold, she gets my coat. If it's raining, I get wet and she gets the umbrella. How is that different? Because these are things that the alpha male^» does to take care of the pack, whereas the OTHERS are things the pack does to show submission to the leader.

You go to eat, and she doesnt know what she wants (god!). You call the waitress and order for her. Thats your job as pack leader, to take care of her. If she doesn't like what you've ordered, she goes hungry while you eat like a pig. She gives you shit about it, you let her know you wont tolerate her behavior. "You're behavior is very disappointing to me."

Alpha males do not put up with bullshit from women. Generally, you should not be overt in communicating this, but there are times when that is necessary. Franco calls this being the Godfather. She didnt know what she wanted to eat, so you ordered for you and her. She didnt like it, so you ate yours AND HERS (you think an alpha dog is gonna let some bitches food go to waste?). She starts acting bitchy. This is no longer about the meal, its about her place in the pack. She is making a power play. There are a lot of different ways you can handle this, from knocking her up side the head pimp-style, to Godfathers "You've disappointed me", but they should all communicate that the CEO is not going to put up with bullshit from the VP in charge of Vagina, so unless she wants to get downsized fucking ricky-tick, she needs to shape up.

-Eye contact: Again, watch the Dog Whisperer. That dude has some serious EC game. From a website on dog training- "If you incorporate eye contact to your dogs training for attention sessions then he will always look up to your for guidance and perform excellent behavior. This type of bond will ultimately bring your relationship to a higher level. You will both learn how to read each other's body language^» and emotions. He will learn to respect your leadership role in the relationship. Eye contact provides a deeper level of communication than can be achieved by training simply through commands and motions. People who have practiced eye contact have really seen an amazing intensity of focused attention in their dog." Ok, now replace "he" with "she" and "dog" with "woman". Does this shit start to makes sense?

Also, like dogs, SOME WOMEN ARE JUST HARD TO TRAIN, while others are very easy. You will get some women who are just hard cases. They may need to be expelled from the pack (or put down, LOL). You may enjoy the challenge and rewards of training them, or you may elect to have easy-to-train women. Not everybody can be a Dog...er...Woman Whisperer.