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"The numbers phase"
For too long I focused on phone numbers and toolbag tricks wondering why everyone else was taking the girls I was focusing on.
Tool bag tricks are the things you use to spark attreaction, to keep interest, to buy you more time. They are by no means getting you into her pants. C&f, negging, push/pulling, body rocking, etc. Are for attraction ONLY. These are SETUPS for the next phase, you have limited time to get her into the next phases or she will move on. You can do a picture perfect james bond impersonation but that still won't get her legs spread. Transitioning is key. Stop using these tricks as a main staple of your game. Stop thinking that eventually they will give you enough brownie points to take her back to your place.
Also, with phone numbers. I've number closed thousands of chicks only to get blown off thousands of times.
Numbers only mean a few things to girls.
- you are an oppurtunity to find parties where she go meet the man of her dreams NOT YOU, or just have a shitload of fun.
- you are social proof. The more numbers she gives out the more guys she has calling when she's around her friends or when she's with a guy she likes.
- she needs to keep in touch with you otherwise she will feel like a slut.
Its just a communication tool, not a solid indicator that she wants you.
Connect with her BEFORE you get the phone number and you'll have much better results.
The way I see it, and correct me if I'm wrong, but numbers are only for a few things.
- daygame, where sometimes fucking just isn't possible.
- a "last shot" where for some reason you had to leave or something happened so its a hit or miss on wether or not it'll go through but it's worth just a couple calls.
- setting up a fuck buddy, you've fucked her, and you've decided that you want to keep fucking her, so you've taken advantage of modern technology to summon her at will.
With daygame, set-up a connection first transition her beyond attraction and she will answer.
With night game, the same applies, but if she's not in your bed by the end of the night, ther needs to be some logistical reason for it, otherwise she will have buyers remorse, not feel attracted to you anymore, etc. Its a last shot deal with phone numbers, she might remember you vividly enough to call back and continue with a day two.
Stop focusing on phone numbers and focus on getting past the attraction phase instead.
Ok, so this has probably been mentioned a lot but I see a lot of people still in that phase. It took me years before it clicked. You don't want to get blown off for years with just a few lays here and there.