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You don't get additional "points" for doing extra kino. You can spend hours doing 100 different kino moves or you can simply put out your hand for her to take, transition the hold into mutual caressing and boom...it's on.
Not saying mutual caressing is something she will remember forever either, but it's a good start. Something real, official and (key word) MUTUAL has now happened between you. She is now more invested. She will remember that moment way longer than all this other mental masturbation kino guys talk about that they did.
ie. I left my hand on her lower back for three seconds bro...it was totally rad!
Everybody talks about how they got some "GOOD KINO" going. What the fuck does that mean? Usually not much.
I call this mental masturbation kino because the guy thinks it all somehow meant something to her. Sorry boys, unless the caressing gets returned and becomes MUTUAL it meant nothing. When you leave it all gets erased. It's like it never happened.
You failed! Despite all the effort, you didn't reach kino goal #1 which is making it mutually "ON". You couldn't get the job done. You couldn't create the moment.
If you don't have a kino goal you are basically just feeling around in the dark hoping something will work.
Kino Goal #1: Use a blend of incidental and overt kino to create a moment of mutual caressing
ie.
1. you start tapping her when making a point
You are now half-way to a K-IOM. She has accepted your caressing. Don't celebrate just yet. It still needs to be returned. Good luck getting her to caress your back (that's why the easiest IOM is the hands)
The secondary benefits are that the "incidental" kino (ie. moving closer) helps you CALIBRATE if and when you should try for the IOM-close. And the "overt" kino (ie. caressing her lower back) creates attraction because escalation is attractive. But despite all the kino you do, if it doesn't turn into mutual caressing, it doesn't even matter because nothing became official. When you leave she thinks "nice guy, but I guess it wasn't meant to be"
The solution for this up until recently was to do lots of RANDOM kino and then lunge for a "kiss close" so you had definitive proof it was on. And we all know what all that kissing you've done has lead to...
Once you reach mutual caressing a massive amount of comfort is built. You are now on the same team and working together. Now it's time to get aggressive. After mutual kino your main goal becomes using sexual kino. Unless you are well calibrated and have experience using a super aggressive strategy from the start, you shouldn't skip the mutual caressing step.
Kino Goal #2: use sexual kino to get her so turned on and horny that she wants to immediately go home with you and suck your cock. Or even better suck it right now in the bathroom!
ie. caressing her ass, exposed legs, inner thighs (teasing and then rubbing her pussy)
- Any additional "non-sexual" couple type kino you do after the mutual caressing IOM is at best just "running in place" or at worst "extra work". In some cases additional couples kino (ie. hand holding) can become played out and ruin your chances at quick sex.
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Shouldn't the goal of fast seduction be to use as little kino as possible to achieve our two objectives.
1: making it officially ON
(as you get more advanced you can skip #1)
Instead we give guys advice like "kino the shit out of her". All the kino you do should have a purpose, you should be working towards a goal. Kino is too important of an escalation to leave to chance.
Do you think she remembers your incidental kino arm taps and you touching her shoulder? Pfft. You go home and post about it like it was something memorable. She got boned that night by someone else.
2. your tapping turns into leaving your hand on her for a few seconds and then removing it
3. the next time instead of removing your hand you leave it there
4. while the hand is there you caress her for a few seconds and then stop
5. you start caressing her again but you don't stop, making your intentions obvious
2: getting her HORNY to leave with us or hook up right then
