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Well maybe I'm a slow learner, because I had to live through another
experience to really convince me not to spend time LONG or SLOW-gaming a
chick.
Just 2 weeks after the previous experience, I had calmed down a bit. I
was going out regularly again. This one started with a premonition... EB
and I were walking on a street with a lot of bars and clubs, and EB
points out "there's lots of eurotrash looking guys in this one".
Something just felt GOOD about that. So we casually said "hey" to one of
the eurotrash guys as they were coming out the club, and we went in.
The club was hopping, as usual, and up on the dancefloor we quickly
spotted a group of people waving a huge flag. I couldn't recognize the
country, and neither could EB. Probably fueled by this good hunch we got
when we saw the eurotrash guys, in the middlde of EB telling me he
didn't know what flag it was I started walking purposely towards the
group. They were dancing in a circle, and I stepped in between two guys
and asked one of them what country they were from.
Ukraine.
Not knowing anything about Ukraine, I just yell UKRAINE!!!!!!! with a
big smile and high-five everyone in the group. That got me fuckin IN.
They were in party mode, and I was a party. Turned out they had just a
week ago arrived in Canada for a 2 months exchange program. So having a
Canadian come to them like that and be fun, well, it was great for them.
While high-fiving, I noticed from the corner of my eyes that a blonde
girl from the group was eyeing me more than the other people.. I
high-fived her last, strategically... And started talking to her. We got
along well, and gradually members of the group started walking away,
leaving me with her, one female friend, and 2 guy friends. EB started
talking with the guys, keeping their attention away a bit from what I
was doing (wasn't necessary, but he's a good wing so he was doing his
job!). I'm dancing with the blonde, HBPrude, talking etc.
Oh yes this isn't strictly part of the FR, but here's a little event
that happened that just makes me NOT believe all the AMOG stories I see,
and that AMOGs are actually quite rare. This buff-looking hip-hop cool
looking black guy approached the group (EB was gone somewhere else at
that point, and it was me, HBPrude, and 2-3 other hot Ukrainian girls).
The guy looks at me with a smile, gives me the thumbs up waiting for my
approval it seemed, so he could get in the group. I stared at him
quietly in the eyes, not smiling (I was too busy enjoying the dance with
HBPrude), and instead of going in (heck there were 3 girls waiting for
any guy to approach, they were all 3 of them hot, and nobody approached
them) he instead just slinked away, looking defeated. WTF. He coulda
beat me up like that, and I sure as hell wasn't against him hooking up
with a girl from the set, they weren't against it either... And he just
walked away. Heed this, people!
I then got HBPrude's email address and left, after I can't remember how
long with dancing and talking.
As my usual gameplan back then, 2 days later I wrote her an email. And
the email bounced. SHIT, I didn't write it properly (hey, those Eastern
European names sometimes...). There was no way this could be a flake,
there was no way she coulda given me a fake email. Not the way I read
the situation. She was so into me. So WTF!!!!!
Once again, EB saved the day. You see, while I was dancing with the
girl-group, EB was talking with the guys.. And he learned from one of
them (who he strongly suspected to be gay, why the guy was always
hanging around wherever EB went lol) the name of the hotel they were
staying at.
So I called the hotel, and the asked the front desk if I could be
transferred to HBPrude's room. And HBPrude picked up the phone!!!!!! She
was really happy that I called (yup, I wasn't creepy for finding out her
hotel and calling her there) because after I left she realized she made
a mistake when telling me the email address and was really sad cuz it
meant I couldn't contact her. DING DING DING! Yes, precum was flowing
already.
It also turned out that shse had a borefriend in Ukraine, but during her
first week in Canada he dumped her by email. So she was ripe for the
picking when I met her. REBOUND, I say, REBOUND!
I met her, with a few of her friends, for a nice night of dancing and
talking and a bit of holding hands... I was a bit taken aback though at
the end of the night, when walking her back to the hotel, she stayed a
few moments outside with me while all her friends went inside and
crammed against the lobby window to see what would happen. WTF lol.
Those crazy Eastern Europeans!!! So I didn't kiss her, just on the
cheek, I was way too weirded out.
What followed was about 3 more dates where obviously things were
slipping away because I wasn't making any moves. But damn she musta been
attracted because she kept coming. Finally one night at a club, when a
song "do you wanna be my girlfriend" was playing she was singing to the
song and then we started kissing. Whew. I did it. It took me a long time
(WTF), but I got over myself and I made a move finally.
We went back to my place, she got drunk a bit but would still resist for
sex. No worries.. It was a slow start, so I figured I'd keep trying. And
damn was she hot. One of the hottest chicks I've hung around with.
Meet after meet came and went, and still I wasn't getting any pussy! Not
even wrapped around my neck! Things started to look dire, as I was
noticing more and more how prude she was, the clear limits she had set
and that I had fallen for... Yet she called herself my girlfriend.
Imagine that. I'm sure everybody has been through that anyway, just
normally it happens way before they're 24.
I estimate we met up around 20-25 times during those 2 months, lots of
making out, even getting drunk, but never sex. I even tried telling her
I was a virgin and that I wanted sex, but somehow the Bible says we
can't do that, blablabla unless married blablablabla. Fuckin bitch lol.
My hunch now is that she was fucking one guy in her group, and didn't
want to get invovled with a guy she couldn't see after 2 months. Silly
bitch, she missed out, but oh well. That's just a hunch, and there'll
never be any way to verify it. In the end, on her last day in Canada,
she cried when we said goodbye to each other.. Something she had said 2
months earlier that she didn't cry when her borefriend dumped her. Who
knows if she was telling the truth, but it made me feel good that I made
her cry. LOL.
Ok so. 2 months. Lots of alcohol. Lots of making out. Persisting and
persisting. And yet, still no sex. Some people think that the more time
you spend with a chick, the better your chances of laying her... Well, I
doubt it now. It's all about how aroused she is, and how freely she
allows herself to be taken -- or in some cases, how she allows herself
to take the man. Well she wasn't allowing herself either of these, she
was just getting drunk and somehow maintaining her limits. And I fuckin
fell for it, thinking next time... Next time...!!! Like Dr Claw, never
catching Gadget. I was the same.
Well fuck that shit! Twice in a row now I got suckered in waiting for a
chick to be ready, and twice it ended up in disappointment. And knowing
the forums, I KNEW chicks could fuck really quickly, and that they
enjoyed it, and that if chicks took too long like that or just would
keep refusing sex, then it wasn't worth the wait.
I was on a mission to lose my virginity, not to wait and wait and wait
for a chick to somehow decide she was gonna fuck while I hoped it would
be me she would fuck.
Fuck. that. shit.!!!!!!!!!! "SLOW" game disappeared from ockwick's
repertoire.
In the last diary, I had my first experience that really made me believe
in why FAST seduction is important and what it does --- or rather what
fails when you don't go fast enough.