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I'm going to try and give a very honest, balanced report about what happened, and what I learned from that weekend.
Please read the whole report. MDMA is mentioned and I know some of you will be tempted to either hit "Back" on your browser, or skip ahead to give me a moral telling-off. There is an extremely important realization about MDMA and drugs in general in this post, so please read the whole thing before replying.
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Firstly, Rags is a genuinely nice, very cool guy. I think he is quite good looking. Not in a pretty boy or male model type way (he shaves his head completely bald), but his state shines through, and he is very happy and in a good mood nearly all the time. This works very well for him, and is something I encourage all aspiring PUAs to work on. If you are genuinely happy, you are 1000 times more approachable, and your sets are going to open.
The guy is very fearless. He was making wolf noises and amping his own state whenever he felt like it. He was also opening sets in the day and in the early evening, in the chip shop and the pub. His enthusiasm is second to none. He is still learning the ropes on what "Alpha" is however, testing himself against people he should probably just ignore. I remember that this got him in trouble during Saturday daytime, when he stared out an entire gang of guys in the street in the city centre. They barged into him and shouted "Fucking cunt!" and tried to get him to fight, but we just walked on - I didn't even know what the fuck was happening, but Rags explained that he had been staring at them, haha.
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I had brought with me a huge stash of MDMA. I started taking some, then so did Rags. I was under the impression Rags did it so he wouldn't feel left out, rather than for his own amusement. I'll let Rags comment on whether this was the case.
We went out to the first couple of bars, and Rags opened a set in each, with his usual very high-energy style. They didn't open. I commented the next day to him that it was too early in the evening for that style, and things need to be more toned-down and smooth. This style would pay off very well for him later in the loud club, however.
Oh, I forgot to mention. After the first bar, we were walking up the street. It was still daylight at this point, and a group of girls just walked up to us and one of them tried to make out with Rags! He dodged it and gave her a little kiss on the cheek, and the girls were heard to shout "You're both ours tonight!" haha. They were in their 30s, and Rags muttered to me "I don't do mutton dressed as lamb" or something along those lines haha.
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We reached the club and my MDMA had kicked in, and I was feeling great. Rags had dropped a second by this point because he wasn't feeling his first.
The club was pretty dead, but we opened whatever was there that we found attractive. Rags opened a very pretty brunette girl, which opened immediately and I could see her laughing and smiling. I cockblocked him at this point because a) I'm a twat, and b) I'd forgotten every wingman rule, since I haven't approached with a wing for about 6 months. I went off and opened my own set to get out of his way, but he didn't get her back. Sorry Rags! I made sure NOT to do this again that night.
We then opened a two-set and both got attraction straightaway. They left to get a drink and actually came and found us again a little later. We both agreed it was on with these girls, but it was still early and I wanted to open more sets. I told Rags that they'd just find us again later and we'd take them home more towards the end. I remember him saying "We should stay with them!" and me saying "Rags, you have to truuuuuust me!" in a German accent, which became a theme of the night. He said okay, and we never saw those girls again. I think they left the club and went elsewhere, since the club was still pretty dead (it never really filled up at all that night). Basically we lost the set because I was convinced they would find us again. That is part of the false confidence MDMA brings. In the past, I have had girls come and find me again. This is largely because I work in small bars on lonewolves who are down to fuck, and I am a sure thing. However I was extrapolating that rule to this situation, and it didn't end up going that way.
Our next several sets went very much like this:
-Opened well
The last point happened on at least 3 sets. One girl would want to come back and party, but the friend would object with either a boyfriend issue, or being "tired", or something else. Now it became very clear to me the next day that both Rags and I lacked the ability to deal with this. Obviously it is a skill we both need to learn.
We looked at our watches and it was 3:30am. They were closing the club, and we'd opened everything worth opening in there anyway. I tried to convince Rags to take us to a late drinking venue, but he couldn't be arsed and we just went home.
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This was a very illuminating night for me personally, since I had not been to a new city and gamed girls in a completely new environment for over a year. I was shocked to find huge, gaping holes in my game.
Now I'm going to break down what the problems were on this night:
-I was more interested in taking drugs than getting laid.
I had great fun on this night. We did many cool things. I got to see Rags do some of his stuff, and he got to see me do some of mine. However, the night was more like a parody of a Mehow in-field video - Mehow supposedly "pulling", when all he actually does is spin girls around and make them giggle a lot. If there was an award for doing THAT, we'd have won it that night.
But essentially the night was "Rags and Corvette in La-La Land" instead of "Rags and Corvette pick up chicks."
Holes in my game:
-Failure to actually push the set to a sexual outcome whatsoever. This was a combination of a) Having not practised this on any scale for MANY months, since I've had a girlfriend and it's just NOT been on my mind, and b) Being happy with just being high on MDMA instead of actually having goals with the sets.
Anyway from this report you can probably see that my love affair with MDMA has now come to an end. I have stopped taking it entirely. I have also stopped living in La-La Land and positively spinning all my posts. If I decide to post more, from now on they will be far more down-to-Earth and practical, and less mental masturbation orientated.
You can take it or leave it, of course. But this is now "Humble and willing to learn" Corvette instead of "MDMA God delusion" Corvette.
Oh yeah, thanks to Rags for a great weekend!
Last Friday, the day before Rags's latest LR, I actually went up to see him for the first time and we went on a night out. He was going to write it up but his LR overshadowed it, so I'll write it up instead.
-Have lots of fun with them (having fun was NOT the problem on this night, and every set was a blast)
-Try and extract, and one would be into it, but the other wouldn't be.
-Rags took drugs which fucked with his natural state which he has spent time calibrating.
-Drugs made us TOTALLY ADHD. I remember leaving the first set just 'cos I was bored. Then Rags's MDMA kicked in and suddenly he was ejecting from sets too. This is because we were getting our "good feelings" from the drugs instead of from interacting with the girls.
-We weren't engaging the sets very much at all. I don't even think we were particularly trying to get laid. We were trying to extract, but it was more for kudos than actual horniness.
-I am used to engaging girls sexually while on MDMA, but on this night I just didn't do it. The bottom line is, we didn't pull, because we didn't try!
-Not having a game plan with regard to the club. It was a very large, very open-plan club. I didn't even scout it out for isolation spots. I am so used to gaming in my own environment, I completely took the logistical aspect for granted!
-Not making the sets cohesive enough for both girls to want to be extracted. In at least 3 cases, one girl wanted to fuck one of us, and the other didn't want to leave. I think we should have just stayed with them longer in this case instead of getting ADHD from the MDMA and wandering off.
