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Just back from the Strip in Vegas, taking a break before I hit up the biggest club in town tonight. I responded earlier to a post from a guy in my local lair, and I talked about pre-opening girls, and only then realized it's something I do a lot, and it's something that actually makes a big difference in opening girls going more smoothly.
So, your standard guy going up to meet a girl will walk up to her, and as soon as he has her attention (or sometimes before), he'll launch into delivering his opening lines. This is typically how it's done, and I see it done this way almost universally.
But a while back I noticed a more suave way to do it when watching how really cool cats in movies picked up girls. They'd get the girl's attention, lock eyes, smile, touch her if they could and it was appropriate, and let it just hang for a second or two. Just hang there like that. Then go start talking.
This is my usual method of beginning conversation with women I like these days. I have several ways I employ this concept:
• Walk up to a girl who's facing away, touch her elbow to get her to turn to look at me, hold eye contact and smile for about two seconds, then go into my opener
• Walk up to a girl who's facing away and leaning against something (bar, wall, etc.), lean against it as well, and nudge her with my hips or elbow. She'll turn to face me, I'll give her eye contact and a smile like I'm about to start laughing, and probably 75% of the time she'll start laughing herself. Then I'll open
• Walk up to a girl facing toward me, get into her personal space, then stop. Lock eyes. Let my smile spread further, then open
I find that this method is FAR more effective than just jumping straight into the opener. Girls open more easily, and they open WARMER. They're more interested right off the bat. They also tend to see you as sexier, especially if you're putting out a sexual vibe.
Why is it effective? Two reasons:
• It takes confidence to do. A guy who's still developing his will have trouble remaining composed for those couple of seconds. But a guy who's pretty comfortable with women and is more out just to enjoy himself rather than to "do game" is going to find this pretty easy to do
• It gives women a minute to size you up. When you first walk up to a girl, especially if she was facing away, if you launch directly into conversation she's suddenly trying to split her focus between whatever she was previously focused on, what you're now saying to her, and you, yourself: whether she likes you in the first place. It's a lot to juggle all at once. If instead you walk up, smile at her seductively with sexy eyes, and give her a chance to see what a strong, sexual dude you are, when you start delivering your opener a few seconds later she will already have decided that she's interested and you'll get a much bigger positive reception from her
One other way to pre-open I'll add too. This one is most effective with very beautiful, well-groomed women -- the ones who are most likely to be very socially aware. When you first look at her, let your gaze linger for a moment. She may look at you, she may not, but even if not the chance is good she noticed out of the corner of her eye. Then turn your gaze away and put a small smile on your face, as if you realized something about her or you're picturing the two of you getting together. Then look back at her, holding that smile on your face. Much of the time, she'll now be looking at you (or you'll catch her averting her gaze from you) with the same kind of smile. Regardless whether she is or not, when you go up to approach her you'll typically find her much warmer than had this exchange never occured.
This is for confident guys.
