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I've got certain foundational principles that I go in with:
- I believe myself to be a high value (meaning SEXUALLY COMPETENT) man. See all of TVA»'s recent posts
- I realize that being high value in ANY respect comes from continuously taking right action. It does not come from the girl I fucked last week. It comes from, what am I willing to do right now and today
- I am authentic and honest at all times. Now this last point needs to be elaborated on as it affects the direct vs. indirect.
To me, being honest does NOT mean, revealing all my cards, or putting a woman on a pedestal because I like her ass, or supplicating or running poor game.
I ALWAYS screen. If a woman is hot and sexy and dumb as a bag of hammers (and there are some like that, but for most that air-headedness is an ACT), then I am STILL screening her, like this:
1. Is she DTF
I really wanna know!
So viewing myself as the prize, yes I may compliment her on her looks or act in a direct manner, still, I want to know is this bitch gonna waste my time or can I fuck with her or not. You could say I am screening her for FUN.
So if you see me being "indirect", there is NO fakery whatsoever. It's not like I am in any way pretending I don't like her. IMO and IME it's got to be genuine. As simple as: hey, I ran up on girls who looked like you before and either my approach was way bad or she was attention whoring because I found out quick I was wasting my time.
I also realize that SHE is screening ME. Do I get awkward with silences? HUGE. I INTENTIONALLY allow silences to prove to her that I am in no way made awkward by her hot ass. Am I going to be awkard with a silence if I am chatting up a dude in the lineup or some fat chick or an old lady? HELL NO. If I can't think of something spontaneous, I STFU. There is no fakery or trying to impress her in my game.
I DO impress them, but only by my ability to take correct action. That means approaching when I get good eye contact, relaxing and letting the moment unfold, and escalating when the situation and my own testosterone tells me that's what needs to be done.
Let me reiterate, she's usually naturally impressed because I ACT, NOT because I am trying to impress her with something some other dude told me to run on her.
Now let's say I think maybe I could day2/date this girl and make her into a regular GF. Then I want to know a little bit more about her. In her mind she may be "I only fuck when in a relationhip" type. That's totally cool, that has not usually prevented me from an SNL. I know how to create those feelings within her, again not by lying or being indirect about my intentions. My intention at this point would be "yes, it's possible for us to have a relationship, I want to know more about you before I say yes, because your pussy is not so important to me that I need to act like I am uninterested".
So to put it another way, I am ALWAYS direct about my intentions. But my intention at the beginning may be just to get to know the girl a little bit better and learn how to seduce her. If it is as simple as "I want to fuck you" then I am STILL needing to know first if I can make her feel the same way before spilling my guts to her. If she doesn't "feel" me after she's had a look at me and I've run my game, then I FORGET about wanting to fuck her. I am better off with PORN than I am with her.
They ALL assume we want to fuck them. Don't assume you are fooling them by indirect. Don't assume she is in any way better than you so that you need to worry about "hooking" her or that you even give a shit if she walks off.
I'll report later about 3 approaches I did today, what went right and what I can improve upon next time.
I really don't intend this thread to be a debate. I am only explaining my beliefs, so that when I give advice it will hopefully make more sense to you.
2. Am I, or could I be, a man she would be DTF WITH
