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Isolation, Push/Pull, Shaping, Secret-Lover-Frame
I thought about opening a hot girl, a 8 I would say, by talking to one dude who visited elementary school with me, who seemed to know her, but before I could do this, HB5yearsago approached me. She is not that hot, but about 5 years before I kind of wanted her, and damn I have a faible for getting girls I was not able to get before, may be an ego-thing or so So well, she opened me, we talked to her, DHV from my site, she seemed amazed, I went for the push automatically, simply ending the conversation, getting some food, talking to some friends. She got some food too, sat down on an empty bench behind me, I knew she was hoping I would turn around and sit next to her, but I did not, some pushing here again.
Went around, talked to some other guys, when I spotted the HB8 again, the guy from elementary school next to him, so I thought “okay, time for some real action”… Then HB5yearsago approached me again, lol, saying she wanted to bring some things to her car, if I would mind going with her. I did not mind, she was offering isolation, and as I said, faible and so on…
So we went to her car, she talked about some shit, I listened, but after she had put the things into her car (down the street around the corner, very nice isolation) I just leaned against the car and made no indication of moving away ? She stayed with me, we kept talking a bit (well, she kept talking), I lead the conversation into sextalk (thanks to TVA» for his awesome guides on sextalk), but giggled a bit, but she was not that much into it, so I directed the conversation into an other direction, wanted to try this again on some later point.
After some talking she wanted to go back to the party, but I wanted to keep her isolated, so I stopped walking in front of the house the party took place in, and she stopped walking too. We fluffed a bit, she said something like “oh, i´m so lonely”, I was like “oh, that terrible”, hugging her, then I went down the street to a bench, she followed me.
We talked a bit, I initiated sextalk again, but she was like “oh, nah, I know some friends to this, taking totally strangers home for only one night, but I do not do this, no no….” … I thought “shit…”… Then I thought about shaping ? So I started shaping her into being a bad girl, saying things like “oh, I remember you as a bad girl”, “I don´t like good girls, they are so boring”, etc. Then I asked her why she drove to the party by car (no drinking and so on), and she was like “have not thought about it, but we can bring the car to my home and walk the way back to the party, then I can drink something”. I thought about it… that would mean I would stay away from the party even more time, that would ruin my chances for getting the HB8 … but in isolation I could keep on working on her, … it would be about 40 minutes, enough time for me! Well, time for a decision… Ego-thing, faible… I chose HB5yearsago!
So we drove to her home, and went inside her house. I stayed outside, thinking about the situation. I thought about what she had said about one night stands, I kind of believed it, … but then I though how I would see it as an objective third person, looking at me… if that was a story my mate would have told me, asking me what to do next, I would have kicked his ass, because what she said must have been ASD… Okay, I would go for it! Time to hunt her down!
She came outside and we went back to the party. More kino at this point (hunt her down), more hugging, touching her back, etc. I kept on shaping, I could really see the results, on the way back she told me lame stories about how bad she really is (lol you can´t imagine how lame that storys were, but hey, she was committed to match my taste of girls, can´t think of a better IoI….) At that point, I knew I was in!
All I wanted was an SNL (cause it was mostly an ego-thing), so I kept pushing. I made her feel that her stories did not impress me, but though I made it smooth, like telling her with my body language» “that somehow funny… I do not know why you are telling me this story, while knowing yourself, that the story is lame….” She told me more and more lame stories about her being a bad girl… I always had the impression she actually is a bad girl, that she has really dirty stories to tell, but at that point I figured, she simply had no dirty stories and she was not bad, though she tried to act bad at that moment… She acted bad cause of the shaping …
As is said, I wanted to push things further, for the SNL. Time for some Secret-Lover-Frame. Told her about my two principles (stole them from TVA», they are awesome):
1. Everything that will happen between the two of us will stay between the two of us (I explained it was awesome for her, because she won’t get called a slut).
2. She has to let herself fall into it completely, meaning I am her sextoy, she is not allowed to prevent her hornyness, when we are going to have sex, then full! Full or nothing, that´s the deal!
I told her this while telling her a story about me and a girl I made up, but in this story I told the girl my principles in direct speech, so it was like I was telling them directly to her, using words like “you” and “we” within the story, I think you get the point.
HB5yearsago: “I would not have thought you are… such a bad boy… you have been such a nice guy back then” (she meant 5 years ago, and she was right, I was a nice guy there).
Aima: “Yes, you´re right, I was a nice guy. But people can change, and now I am what I am. And believe me, I have more fun than I had ever. It´s all about fun. And it´s quite easy to have fun, you see? All we have to care about is those two principles.” (sedutive EC).
I pointed out those principles, because I wanted her to accept them. By accepting them, she would accept me as her secret lover. That was the next step to take!
While we talked about that, we reached the house that party took place in. We stayed in front for about 2 minutes, while I told her about the principles (see above), then I went in. Huge value again, they were asking where I have been, I told them she drove her car away and now she can drink, about 5 people came and wanted to drink with me, that was awesome ?
After some drinks we went outside to the bench before the house (again). That was quite good isolation without being to far away from the party. We were totally into sextalk now. She told me about her ex-friends, about that she had only had sex with one guy ever, her last ex-friend, …
HB5yearsago: “I still meet him (her ex) from time to time, you know, just for sex… though we are still friends and talking much… But we have met the last time 5 weeks ago, at the moment he´s not answering my calls or sms…”
Aima: “Oh, 5 weeks ago? I feel extremely horny after 1 week without sex, can´t think of 5 weeks without it… you must feel very very horny at the moment”
HB5yearsago: “yeah, I feel so horny at the moment”
Aima: “Well, actually I feel horny too. But luckily there is one thing we can do about it…”
Seductive EC at this point, I could see the DDB in her eyes, I came closer, she leaned in for the kiss, I kissed her, only for 3 seconds (to long kissing is a tension-break, thanks for those who figured that out lately). Than I told her
Aima: “But you have to agree with my principles, I need to know you accept them”
Then she talked a long long time, about that she wants a relationship with me, bla bla, … asking me if I could imagine a relationship with her, I was like “no” (true). I said all I want is to have fun, and I want it easy. … She tried to talk me into a relationship, but I made my point clear: my way or highway. We cuddled while she talked to me, but I went more passive and passive, turning slightly away, you know what I mean. My body language» told her “you can talk as long as you want, but its my way or highway baby”… Then she said she had to pee, so we went back to the party, I went to some guys, drank a drink with them, funny mood, then she came back and told me
HB5yearsago: “Okay, I have thought about it, I have chosen option one, … your way”
Aima: “Okay”
Drank another drink, then we went out again. We went down the street, then I lead her down the street to a little path that leads into a small peace of woods. There we were alone, separated from the party and everyone coming down the street. Oh, there was a bench, that´s nice
We made out more (she followed principle two), she didn´t want to blow me, but she tried a handjob… it was not good… I figured it was time to set up everything for a day2. We cuddled a bit on the forest floor, we said we would meet in two days (she said her period is over then).
HB5yearsago: “I think this is what I need, some good sex, maybe I need a little fuck-relationship, you know, just fucking nothing else… that is an offer, if you did not understand this”.
Aima: “I did understand, let us look at what happens, you can not plan this kind of things.”
I said that, because she was not that hot, I did not want to make her my fuckbuddy. SNL was okay, for my ego, or maybe a day2, but not more.
HB5yearsago: “Acutally you are not a stranger, I know you.. and i´m not taking you home,… so i´m still not taking totally strangers home like my friends” (chick-logic, she wanted to defend what she had done in front of herself).
After that I said it was time to go back, so we dressed up again, went back. The party was nearly dead, but inside of the house were some people left. We sat down, we didn´t let something show, meaning we played it like “oh lol, we talked so long everyone is gone”
Well, I finished the party in a relaxed manner and was quite happy about the day2 the next day.
Two days later I went visiting her, but she bored me to death (don´t want to elaborate on what she did), and the highlight was when she offered me, she still had her period, but she loves cuddling up with me so much, … I left after about 60 minutes, quite calm (I´m always calm at the moment, meditating, doing a lot of sports, being congruent)… I was not angry, but I was like “okay sweety, you ruined your chance for awesome sex with me, for ever!!!”
So I drove home and chilled a bit, invited some friends and made the day mine
I could have pushed it more, but she was no real HB,… my ego was okay with the makeout in the forest, so I did not want to put any other effort into it! I´m sure I could go to her house now, ring the bell, pull her into my car, drive 1 minute into any direction, stop the car, and fuck her! But I do not want.
In addition, as always, i´m happy about comments or tips
Keys in this FR
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On the weekend, I wanted to visit a birthday party of one of my friends. But when I woke up at about 8 pm (was tired so I slept a bit) I was what everyone would call “not in state”. Damn...
So what can you do when you have this great birthday party about 300 metres away from your home, when you know, that there are some hot chicks, you know, there are many people who will give you a huge social value, and even more important, everyone expects you to rock that place … well… I listened to music! Really great party-music (thanks to TVA» at this point ). I did this for about 30-40 minutes, while dressing up, etc. … and when I went out, to go to the party, my state was awesome! I was sure, today no matter what will happen, I will have fun and I will rock that fucking party! Awesome! ?
So I went to the Party and as I expected, I knew about 70% of the people, and they were very very happy to see me Huge value here and there, talked with chicks here, talked with some friends there, always short and high-value conversations, I went to them, entered the conversation, DHV, leave ? Oftentimes some people followed me when leaving a group (lol, who´s the leader? ) but I did not care.
I sat down, she sat down on me, makeout! I started undressing her, but then she told me “I have my period, I hope you´re not to disappointed” … I was….
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As always, there are many things running along that can not fit into this (I think already detailed) report. But you are welcome to ask me any question, I will answer it