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Hopefully these numbers will give people an idea of how important different aspects of online game» are to getting that crucial first reply (and maybe also a sense of how well other people are doing)
The Numbers Additional Information
I'm a 6.5-7 on the male looks scale and look very bad in pictures (because film can't capture my wicked BL/EC, of course). I have one decent picture that makes me look like a 7 or 7.5 taken at a party. I look happy and there's a female friend smiling in it too (note: this isn't one of those needy "I have hot friends" pictures). My friend is an 8-8.5 who photographs REALLY well. When I used his pictures I posted 4-5, including face+body pics, pics of him at a wedding playing guitar and athletic activity pics.
My bland profile can be found here (http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=3&mn=1240945738553796&refine=subject%3D%26author%3Deponymous%26datefrom%3D%26body%3D%26dateto%3D). It got solid reviews from fellow PUAs at the time, but I'm no longer using it. Feel free to adapt/copy any of it.
My bland email was basically: comment on why her profile caught my eye, say that we have lots of stuff in common, list that stuff, tell her I'm intense so she'd better not scare easily, ask her to tell me more about herself.
I won't be sharing my email, since it is incredibly specific to me and my profile. I also suspect it screens for educated/slightly geeky girls a little too well to be useful for most of mASF. I might post a few snippets/tricks if there is any interest.
The "negs" section of my profile can be found here: (http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/fs?action=9&boardid=2&read=95985&fid=16).
I will expand on the good profile in a new post shortly and also link to it from here. Watch this space.
In each case I got a very small number of girls sending me messages. About 1/week with my pics, in the 6-7 range. Several a week with the attractive pics, and in the 7-7.5 range.
Conclusion
I've tracked my online dating» response rates for a while now, and I'm posting the statistics because:
1) it's kind of cool
2) I swapped pics with a natural friend of mine but kept the emails and profile the same, so we have an experiment about the relative importanceof looks. I also changed my email and profile over time, so we can compare how my response rates evolved.
3) I really think online dating» is a series of funnels, from her reading your email, to meeting up, to sex, and that the better you do upstream, the better your results will become downstream.
These are percentage responses based of total read emails (if you send 10 emails of which 8 get read and you receive 2 responses, your rate is 2/8=25%).
Bad pics + Bland (but pua approved) profile + bland email = 11% (not too many attractive chicks, either)
Bad pics + Bland profile + Good email = 17% (start getting hotter girls now)
Bad pics + Bland profile + Negs + Good email = 27% (small sample size)
Bad pics + Good profile+ Negs + Good email = 25% (start getting compliments on profile in emails, more effort invested by girls in their replies)
Good profile+ Negs + Good email + Good pics = 39% (tended to be hotter chicks, but also more shit tests)
Email read rates were constant at 85-90% for all of the above set-ups except the last one, which was tested in a larger city and got only 70%. I have a theory about title read rates I can post if people are interested.
- Negs made a big difference (+10%... almost doubled my response rate) to spicing up a bland profile. If you have a basic profile that needs some oomph, add a negs section at the end. Negs probably don't matter much if you already have a cool and funny profile.
- A good email makes a big difference (+6%... an improvement of over 50% in my response rate).
- Pictures play a huge role in online dating». Far larger than looks in real life.
- Hotter chicks shit-tested the good picture profile alot more. I would get replies that seemed non-committal or even bitchy, but after sending a funny response, the girl would generally open up.
- Your profile can and should set the frame you want to have while dating her. My early profile didn't do this very well, while my improved one conveyed cockiness, non-neediness and a lot more cool stuff about my personality.
- If I had to guess at how important these things are for getting a reply, I'd say pictures, then profile, then emails. In my case, maybe 5% of my replies are looks-based (whereas my buddy's pics were worth 20%), a good profile yields 13% and the last 7% are due to my emails (there's some stats magic behind all this, plus info from my hotornot experience).
