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I attempted to add a lot more advice and explanation than normal. Thus the reason behind the length.
Still its was the first day back, and I was determined to actually have a good time. Lugging boxes up stairs all day had left me utterly exhausted. The process had taken hours. During that time, I was pinging people on my phone. I wanted to find a place to party that night. The Booze could help to soothe my wounds.
Of the little I remember, the set was outside my public speaking class. I think most of the conversation involved me ranting about how carbon Dioxide doesn't cause global warming. (I refuse to discuss this on here. Watch “the Great Global Warming Swindle.” if you care. It can be found on Google. Its a documentary by the BBC.) I drew several charts and drafts. I was about to give a speech on it in ten minutes and was using them to distract myself. She was with one other friend.
At the time, I didn't find her particularly attractive. I guess her cloths were unflattering or I was exceedingly busy. I grabbed her number but never bothered to call. I did however friend her on Facebook.
Well, a few weeks ago I was sitting on my computer. While bored I dropped her a line. Generally I restart things with girls on Facebook by commenting on their status. I send them an IM though This way it starts a conversation as opposed to simply hanging onto their status. Which inevitably goes nowhere.
We chatted for a bit, but my net went out. So I texted her. I never really delete phone numbers. She chooses this moment to drop some seriously heavy shit on me. Apparently her Ex husband had just died in Iraq. I wasn't really sure how to handle that. It's serious, and I didn't want to do anything to belittle the situation. My ability to empathize is lacking in many ways. So I treated the situation as best I could, and left conversation open for later. Also, I found out she was older than me, which makes her a nice beer connection for the upcoming school year.
I don't think I talked to her again until school started.
ME: Back in Knox
Flip: Welcome back! We should get a drink sometime this week. (This is an extremely strong indication that she was interested. So I decide to go ahead and see about tonight. She opened by pushing for a meet up. Fit well to go ahead and screen for what she was going to be doing later.)
ME:Agreed. I am going to try to head out tonight. What are you up too? Oh, and how old are you? (I was clarifying because I couldn't remember. At that moment I thought even if she wasn't hot, she can get me beer. Also, its always good to bring a girl with you to parties. People like you better that way. Also she might have friends that are cute. So I wanted to see her anyway. The point: I was not just trying to fuck her. Also, I went ahead and told her what I was doing. I didn't look to her to generate plans for me. I was going out to party, and was sharing this information. This makes me lead rather than just simply trying to value leech on her night.)
Her: Getting some goodies at target right now. I'm 21 How old are you?
ME: 20 so you have to buy. lame. No I mean what are you doing tonight?
Her: No fun! But thats fine. I just turned 21 a few months ago so I know what its like. (This line generates Rapport. So another indication she was interested I guess. She is empathizing. This is always a good sign. Its great to show you have commonalities of any kind with a girl. However, it is infinitely better when she generates some. ) I have some family coming in town for about an hour tonight, but after that I am free.
I felt things were going well, so I went ahead and called her. She answered and we made some vague plans. She was going to come over and meet me at my place. Plans for the night were still aloft, as Angel and I debated several options.
She would also grab some beer along the way. Note I like to see if I can get girls to do things for me. I like women that are reasonably compliant. Getting her to grab a twelve pack for us is not a major hoop, but it will quickly weed out the flakes. Any girl that is serious about coming over, will be willing to grab something on her way over. In the past I have had girls get McFlurries, or mixers. As long as the item they get goes along with the date you have planned, then it shouldn't be a problem.
It was about 7, and she said she would be there at nine. My boxes of crap quickly found themselves put neatly away. It is amazing how well women can motivate me. After running through the shower, I tossed on some cloths.
My roommate, Angel had found a party for us to go to. Angel is, for lack of a more interesting turn of phrase, a very strange dude. He's a genius on a level that often makes me feel stupid, and that is rare. He also has the ability to simultaneously make people like him and think he is better than them. He's a first rate hacker and computer wizard. He is about 6'2 280lbs, with buzzed blond hair. Oh, and he is good enough at NLP. He once set up an anchor on me for confusion that was so effective I would stop mid sentence with my mouth hanging wide open and completely phase out. He is also half decent with women, but has a lot of hang ups. Still he knows about the Community, and all the stuff I do.
A buddy called him and invited him to a party. Angel invited his GF and her roommates. I invited Flip.
The door of our apartment goes to the outside of the building, and our neighbors are Asian. One of them had performed a ceremony that I was slightly familiar with. It involves folding 1000 or 100 paper star our of paper. I can't remember which. Then you scatter them and make a wish. These now littered the area in front of our door. I had learned about this from a friend of mine in HS.
So when she got up the stairs, I told her about it. I picked up one of the tiny paper stars and gave it to her as well. The we went inside. Angel and his GF HB Needy were sitting on the couch. I introduced everyone, and then showed the place to Flip as we stashed away all the beer.
Now, I had a chance to really get a look at her. She was very attractive. I'm giving her and eight. She had to have lost weight, or whatever she wore before just sucked. She was very pretty I the face, with light brown eyes, and freckles. I love freckles.
When we got to my room, I showed her my book collection. The shelves are the largest part of my room actually. I also mentioned that I was on a Diet. She inquired about it. I told her. Then we did the same thing for exercise. She disagreed with everything I had to say about both, but she was very diplomatic about it. She managed to do this without ever actually starting an argument. I like that, because I will argue for no reason a lot.
I decide it was time to simply change the subject. We talk about lots of things, though in all honesty there is no way to remember most of it. I started putting my arms around her and cuddling. We both sit on my bed, and talk. It turns out she likes Epicurus. He is my favorite Greek philosopher. He believed happiness, or pleasure depending on the translation, is the only real virtue in the world.
This whole time I am keeping EC. It isn't hard to do, because she is easy on the eyes. She smiles and returns it. We go back into the kitchen and grab some more beer. As we talk to the Angel and Needy on the couch, I stand behind her.
My chin rests rather gently on her shoulder as I wrap my arms around her waste. She has been at my place all of 15 minutes at this point. This isn't just senseless touching either. This is the way lovers touch and treat one another. I'm assuming a deep level of physical intimacy quickly, while generating rapport. As we talk, she returns the affection. Her hand keeps finding my stomach. Its nice actually. I just lost 12 pounds on my diet last couple weeks, and she can feel my abs. That alone makes me glad I lost the weight.
Eventually as I sit on the couch, My other roommate walked in. I was sitting with a strange girl in my lap and holding a beer. Yeah, I'm underage. His dad is a massively uptight douche. I think this is part of the reason they moved out.
It is on. A buddy of mine joins us, and then we head to the party. We walk together talking the whole time. It is all fluff. I do however mention that I just spoke at a “self improvement” convention down in Orlando. It always seems to get a positive reaction, and the community has become a large enough part of who I am that any girl I want to keep around has to know what it is. This is part of a pretext to prepare her for it.
Before we leave, she asked if she could leave her purse in my room. I let her of course. I couldn't actually ask for logistics that were any better. Seriously, I asked her about this, and she feigns no knowledge of making it easier for me to fuck her. Well, now she had to come back to my room later.
We arrive at the party, and say hi to the host. We walk around and chat. Nothing much exciting is happening. We play a couple games of flip cup. I do well, but my team, including Flip, seemed to suck pretty badly. I decided it was time to move this situation forward. I pulled her in a gave her a kiss. Nothing special, no excuse or gimmicks or lines. I put my hand on her back and pulled her in. Once we were close I cocked my head to the side. She mirrored me. This is a body language» cue that I am going to kiss her, so I leaned in. It was nice kiss, but really just a peck.
The later you weight, the faster you have to go.
I decide this can't possibly end badly, so I tell Flip.
Me: Needy wants to make out with you. You can have a threesome with her and Angel. (I give her a smile, as though I was seriously encouraging this)
Her: (looks sort of embarrassed while sitting in my lap. Needy doesn't hear to conversation.)
Me: Out of curiousity... have you ever had a threesome?
Her answer is lost in my head, but it broke down to this. She wants to, but hasn't. Apparently she has fantasied about a two girl threesome. This of course endears her to me. Apparently she watches lesbian porn. Yay!!!
Any time a girl passes a hoop I throw out I usually give them some sort of positive encouragement. In this case is was....
We keep the vibe going. Early we had talked about Mixed Martial Arts, and fighting. She now brings up Fight Club.
Me: Oh yeah that's an awesome movie.
Her: Yeah, do you have it?
Me: Of course.
Her: I totally want to watch it right now.
Me: Cool, lets go do that.
I want all of you to read this like I heard it. She seeded a bounce on me. I have used this excuse to invite women back to my place before. Now she used the exact same reason. This was fucking hilarious to me.
So we head back to my place. We are walking with my arm around her back. Twice we stopped and did some heavy make outs. I have the experience not to ride it to the end though. I push her away and tell her, “Later.”
We pass a kegger and, out of drunken curiosity, I drag her inside and up the stairs. I get opened as soon as I walk in though. Someone knows me from a class. Thats cool. A benefit of being social is the constant proof you generate. People open me a great deal more than they did at the beginning of college. We chat. Then I take Flip, and we wander about the strangers house. The party is extremely large. At least 100 people there. Mostly everyone is just standing around talking. Thats lame. Normally I would try to make the party better.
A small note: this is hindsight, and not something I thought about at the time. We came to that party however briefly together. It does build the bonds between us. Also, I simply acted on an impulse, and lead her. I wanted to do something, so I did.
I am hammered and have new girl already. Fuck fixing the party, I am headed home. So I walk across the street and start climbing my stairs.
This is one of the most awesome parts about my new place. It is in the middle of party central. I could literally throw a rock from my roof and hit a party every night almost.
We get back in side, and head straight for my room. She lays down on my bed, and I throw in fight club. Neither of us watch it. I pounce on her from my door.
Most women just passively accept that sex is happening. Not her, She runs her hands across my body, and pulls me in as we make out. I pull her shirt off, and she grabs mine. Then my pants come off. I go for hers.
She pushes my hands away. I try a couple more times, but meet similar defeat. So I roll over, and try to watch the movie.
Unfortunately, I missed the first 5 mins or so. He is just walking into the Testicular Cancer support group. His head was buried in Bob's massive tits. That will kill an erection if anything will.
Flip quickly does her best to grab my attention back. She presses into me, and mounts me. She is going for more kissing. I roll her onto her back. So I go for the pants again.
Her: That would be too easy.
I found this comment kind of annoying. She had made this into a competition in one single line. I rolled off and started to watch the movie. Functionally this was a freeze out. I don't think those really work. I just didn't feel like dealing with her LMR. I was drunk, and that tends to make me less horny, and apathetic.
She was obviously able to pick up that it annoyed me.
Her: Too easy on me, not too easy on you.
So this was a puzzle. Girl wants to have sex with me. Girl must resist because otherwise she will feel like a whore. So as she rubbed her hands across my chest I ran a search through the seduction information database that is my brain. As my hand ran over her ass, I was reminded of something I learned a long time ago, but heard again recently.
This is something from Vin Di Carlo's old Escalation ladder. Heartwork briefly mentioned it during his speech at the convention. Reaching down the front of the pants usually leads to a block. So instead I reached down the back of her pants. I reached all the way around and slipped a finger inside her.
I must have hit the on switch, because about five seconds later we were naked and having sex.
She's fun. I think I may be seeing her to much. I did to my polyamororus EFA though. She screens well for a relationship, so she maybe my new primary. I am still deciding.
Hopefully we will go out and pick up some girls together. I'm already preparing for that.
Five days later.....
I think I have seen her a bit to much. I gave her a very solid EFA about what I wanted. She knows, but I just enjoy having her around to much.
She was on her period the day before yesterday. She told me, because she didn't want to be a “cock tease.” Thats cool, I got a BJ instead. That morning, She gave me a BJ as I woke up. Totally and completely unprompted. Awesome. Then she got up, because I had to get ready for class.
“Want me to make you breakfast?”
“That would be great.”
I got in the shower. Coffee and a large omelet were waiting for me when I got out.
Yeah, all I need now her to help me seduce some other girls, and we may have a winner.
This one is significantly longer than normal. Still it should only take the Average person 12 minutes to read it.
I just got back to the UT campus on Monday. I had to move in, and there was some craziness going on about my roommates. Two of them decided to move out. One because his dad thought the neighborhood was to dangerous. The other didn't think the place was good enough. The rent is dirt cheap. I really like it. I have no idea what his problem was.
Flash back Sequence
One of the people I pinged was an HB Flip. Flip was a girl I had open randomly while walking around campus last year.
So while attempting to sort my ever growing book collection, I dropped sent her a text.
She called and I talked her through finding my place. I came out on the balcony and called down to her so she could find us. The roommates never showed.
Now, some interesting points to make here. Could I have done this earlier? Yes. However then I would have looked over eager, and we were in my room so I would get ASD. Even though I can go big, since the pull to sex isn't super fast, the escalation has to be paced.
Then we play beer pong. We get killed. I am obviously out of practice as we only scored one cup a piece. Thus is the way of the world. So we take a seat next to HB Needy and Angel. Needy makes a comment about wanting to fuck Flip.
Me: I like you, I think I am going to keep you for a while.
Her: I know you like real fighting, but I really love Fight Club.
This helps me a couple ways. Firstly the push away makes me no needy. It also makes her want me more. These are all good things. Its a basic, but effective form of push pull. Also, since I now have her in isolation, I can go farther with the escalation and avoid ASD. Since I am headed to the place I want to fuck her at, this was the best time to start getting sexual.
