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Original discussion thread: http://fastseduction.com/discussion/fs?action=9&boardid=2&read=98941&fid=146&FirstTopic=60&LastTopic=89
In http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/fs?action=9&boardid=2&read=98803&fid=146
i6power wrote:
OK clearly some guys are missing the obvious. This is why MM gets so much
flak. Mystery's analysis of what's needed to lead to sex is flawless:
Attraction, Comfort, Seduction. Cool. What trips guys up is the idea that you
actually have to DO something to achieve these, and worse, you have to do them in
some specific order. Beep beep beep, time to run comfort material, beep
whirrrr.
In the above quote i6power writes "It just seems to me his girls are already in some
kind of sexual rapport with him or strong attraction when he even started the
sex talk." Yeah! I know this might seem crazy to some of you reading this, but
it is possible to approach a woman and have her already attracted to you and
comfortable with your presence. So all you have to do is lead her to bed (or
the nearest club toilet). Doesn't that sound a lot more enjoyable than running
ten odd hours of verbal game?
So how do you do it?
Assume attraction and comfort! Look, when TVA» or any of the other successful
guy in the world walks up to a woman, he has an expectation that it will go
well, that she'll enjoy his company and want to have sex with him. That's
his reality. He meet girls, vibes a little, and then fucks them senseless.
Contrast that with the frame, "I'm gonna have to disarm her bitch shield with
technique x, then build comfort with technique y, then run pattern z, then
..."
Look, I'm not saying every woman you walk up to is just going to hop into bed
with you in ten minutes, but bugger me, why start with the expectation that
she won't?
When you walk up to her and start interacting, pay attention. Reading her vibe
isn't difficult. If she looks uncomfortable, THEN make her feel at ease. If
she looks sexually unattracted, THEN show her more of your attractive side. But most
importantly, think about how you can convey these attributes earlier in the
interaction for next time (like right off the bat).
It's easier than you think. Remember a time when someone was ready to have sex
with you, then feel like that. It's really magnetic. It just happens
I was reading another thread and decided it's time for this post.
>>I did some more readings, trying to figure out TVA»'s game. I could not! It
>>just seems to me his girls are already in some kind of sexual rapport with
>>him or strong attraction when he even started the sex talk. A lot of Fr/LR
>>are social circle game. Even when the target is cold approached, he does
>>not go into details what he did during the attraction stage. A lot of
>>times, it's just "We fluffed" "We talked about stuff, then I amped the
>>BT". Then he goes into sex talk, and describe in all gory details of sex
>>act. Yes they are very entertaining to read, and YES a lot of people like
>>him because he is like a motivation and aspiration for a lot of guys
>>including myself. But It is very hard to learn anything concret from it.
>>I also read some Sosha's FRs. Even though he is less experienced, and
>>never even had a relationship. I find his FR much better written, more
>>coherent, and more details on initial dialog, BL. Which are more imrpotant
>>actually. Think about it, if you are already teasing her sexually, 90% of
>>work is already done!>>
>>TVA»'s sexual talk, sexual tension stuff really works best at later stage
>>of seduction, but has little value for initial attraction, especially for
>>day-game cold approaches.
