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I joined the community and this site 14 months ago. At that point in my life, I had only slept with 2 women and
only had 1 serious relationship. I've gone from AFC to PUA during this time.
In 14 months I've had insane success on I've slept with 6 new women, some multiple times.
No reward comes without cost:
To myself, I've had many a sleepless night, I've run myself ragged trying to keep up with various people I've
cried myself to sleep, I've made girls cry, I've hurt people I like. I've been in situations that haven't made me happy.
And some awesome rewards:
And the dangers of sucess.
Being a PUA, and sleeping with lots of women requires a certain kind of mindset. You have to put aside your conscience to some degree, you have to accept you're going to hurt people emotionally sometimes, but often its your own emotions that you are trying to protect. I'm going to suggest that some of the guys on this forum don't really want to become a guy who gets laid every 2.5 days with a different women. You may simply wish to get the point where if your girlfriend/wife dumps you or stops sexing you (which is instant breakup btw don't put up with that ever), you can find another women easily, and if you feel you can do this, you will feel confident in your relationship, which in turn will improve it. But neither aim is better than the other.
Don't get sucked into thinking that certain things are the peak of PU. like getting Multiple Relationships are seen as the highest achievement, and what every guy on here should be aiming for but in reality they are pretty easy to achieve, the hard part is the cost to yourself, they take alot of energy.
YOU need to decide WHAT is going to make you happy (This is allowed to change, but make sure you are working towards your goal, and not what you "think" you should be doing.
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Now i'm not the greatest guy at this, but i'm gonna post you everything i used, and it brought me some success. If you're not getting anywhere, it might be worth a try.
I'm going to explain what I do, and what i think might have got me success (i can't know for sure, it could all be luck you know).
Inner Game»
Before you do ANY PU AT ALL decide what it IS you WANT. You can then develop a strategy toward PU. Don't start
from a point of if I an do SNL first, then I can try getting a STR or 3somes. Start out straight out with your aim because it will shape your entire strategy.
Please please read the METAFrame:
The second BASIS is Gunwitch method», i cannot recommend reading ALL the parts multiple times until your eyes bleed.
You must also realize and accept the following fact as TRUTH (stolen from GWM)
Women love and want sex significantly more than Men.
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I take no credit for any of the techniques used, i found them ALL on the board, apologies for people i forget, if anyone finds the original posts link them in.
In the Field (all nightgame)
Approaching
When I hover, i try to get EC again, and if she keeps looking down when our eyes catch, its on.
- Depending on the context (and volume of music) I either do something amusing to catch her eye, smile or point
and dance a bit, to try and get her dancing along. If she seems up for dancing i come in close and starting
dancing with her. Or i simply go up and say "Hi, whats your name?" or "I like XXX"
In Set
Kino
Extract
The lay
- multiple relationships
Do you REALLY want to be a PUA heres what I did...
The sex has been good, I've discovered some girls are much,much better at it than others.
Some of the best times have been simply sharing the company of women I like and getting to know them, and just silly together.
I've met a number of truely beautiful and lovely women that only months ago I would happily have made my girlfriend, but then suddenly it didn't seem enough, I had to keep finding more and more and making more and more love me, for me only to break their hearts. I realized today I no longer want to be this force thats causing me pain, its actually hurting me more, than the women.
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This frame is the BASIS of my PU and though processes.
They want it more than you, but they can't admit it, because of the backlash from society if they do.
Ok enough of that inner game» stuff, this is the stuff that I've been using in field and has gotten results every so often, i don't understand exactly what im doing when things work, only that sometimes when i do this things come together and i get laid.
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- I only approach chicks i like the look of
- I often only do a few approaches a night, sometimes i don't approach at all (those nights suck) Yet even with this poor number of approaches i've had sucess.
- Before approach i try for EC, i look at them until they look at me, then I wait for them to look away first
There eyes will do one of 3 things. For me they mean this
- Roll up = leave alone
- Go sideways = try and get EC again, maybe try hover, depends how i feel
- Look down = hover (Read GWM if you dont understand the hover, its one of the BEST approach techniques)
- My follow up questions are normally something like "You having a good night?" or "where u from?" or "how come you came here tonight".
-I'm a very shy guy, i find it tiring to talk to people, you don't need to do too much talking if you don't want to.
- Awkward Silences = SEXY. It means both your brains are thinking about sex, so you're finding it hard to speak, its a good thing, never bad. Do not eject from a set if it feels awkward, awkward is good.
- The escalation ladder is worth a read, but don't follow it religiously you just gotta practice really and see how things go The golden moves i learn from Sleazy» and the ladder.
- CALIBRATION IS IMPORTANT, you have to try and understand the state the girl is in.
- Allow your hands to brush against girls, when you walk around the club keep them by your sides. If a girl seems into you hand on her back is good and touch her bum (by accident) brush against the girl in sexual areas accidentally and softly.
- DO NOT LOOK AT WHERE U HANDS ARE.
- If she lets you grap her bum, you can move into sexual kino. Also keep graping it AVOID going for the breasts most women have issues about them. Use your hands to move her bum cheeks around to stimulate her (Sleazy» explained this ALOT ALOT better, i can't find his post tho.
- If she seems down for it, hand down the back of her skirt/jeans and finger from behind move as from the ladder, has NOT let me down ever (i've got laid every time) when where she let me put her hand down her bare ass, this is the move to pull.
- I don't want to have sex in clubs or feel confident about trying it...im a shy guy and i'm too scared of getting into trouble if caught.
- Ask her "want to come back to mine" or "shall we go back to yours"
- If she says yes, its on. ignore that "we're not going to have sex" its hardly ever true.
- Pretending to be a bit drunk can be useful (no idea why, chicks seem to think its ok if you're both drunk and "accidentally" have sex)
- if you can use a cab rather than your car, chicks seem to get funny about coming back in your car.
- I've only got LMR once, and i failed to lay her, but it was with a chick i was friends with, so I think that might be what it had to do with, plus all her friends had seen me leave with her.
- fuck her well. you don't want to get a bad reputation
- invest and try out a range of condoms
- keeping her
Just be a "nice" guy, eg call/txt her back, have morning sex with her when u first sleep together. Make sure the sex is amazing. she'll want to be in a relationship
NEVER verbalize the relationship
Keep them all in separate areas and fuck them well each time.
Its very tiring.
I think i've covered everything that I do...but if I forget anything i'll add it on. Sorry I can't link to the stuff i used, i can't remember where it all is, but if you read up my old FR/LR you're find references.
