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Wife and I are in Vegas and I suggest a swingers club. We have been to one before so it's not a totally new thing. We check the place out and it's basically a private house with pool, jacuzzi, bar, dance floor, bedrooms, etc. It's couples only.
We decide to do their New years eve party, and it's pretty typical swingers party. Lots of dancing, drinking, and after midnight, sex in the rooms, although towards the end of the night there were a bunch of guys getting blow jobs in the bar.
More interesting was the last night we went, a Saturday. Most of the crowd was locals with a few out of towners and new people. You could tell the locals because they were talking to each other, and the new/tourist couples were sitting by themselves looking uncomfortable.
I told my wife that we were going to start meeting people and I started doing approaches to EVERYBODY. Now, I have almost NO nightgame experience, but having hung around mASF for a while, I have a decent feel for it. So, bold as balls, JSJ goes up to the couples who are looking bored/nervous/shy and says something along the lines of there seem to be too few people socializing so I'm being social and my name is JSJ and this is my wife blah blah blah.
Now keep in mind this is a swingers club and people expect to be propositioned for sex in the back rooms. I actually had no intention of doing so unless the vibe was REALLY good. In other words, I was there to PU, I was there just to socialize and practice some night game.
Various reactions:
There is a lot of talk in the community about negs and withholding compliments, but if you can find a GENUINE compliment for a woman, use it. Women sense false "pick up" compliments a mile away, but they are suckers for the real thing.
-Chick crack works. I did strawberry fields on one chick and she was DDB.
-There was actually very little full swap going on. Most people who come, will only fuck their spouse/partner. Those that do swap tend to make the deal online or beforehand then meet up at the club for the swap. LOTS of people like to watch, not so many to be watched. If you want to swap, don't wait around or try a bunch of bullshit. Just say "lets go to the back and swap" and get things rolling. New Years Eve I could have swapped with one couple but the vibe was not right, mainly due to the guy being way too aggressive.
-The more I observe women, the more I think that we, as men, overgame them. Doesnt matter if its swingers or PU at church. Chicks are either DTF or not. If they are, drag them someplace and fuck them. Most of PU is being able to spot the chick who is DTF with you.
-Being Vegas, a lot of the chicks were HOT. Like, a couple of 10s, (as in porn star), some 8-9s and the rest a mix of older/chunky/etc. Now, here is an interesting observation:
THE MAJORITY OF THE GUYS WERE NOT GOOD LOOKING, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAD A HOT FEMALE. And the best looking dude in the place, a black guy with an athletes physique, had, by far, the ugliest girlfriend. Hugely fat chick.
Most of the people were professionals. A BUNCH of teachers. I'm beginning to think all school teachers are closet freaks.
I suppose this could be considered an LR, but I think thats a bit presumptuous. The focus of it is not how one gets laid, but rather the social dynamics I observed and lessons learned, thus to me it's an FR.
-Women almost always react better to approaches than the men. Guys just kind of sit there and don't talk, even if the woman gets engaged in the conversation. When the guy does talk, he seems reluctant.
-The locals/hardcorp swinging crowd are much more open, men and women alike. No big surprise.
-Several chicks did stripteases on the pole. They were actually quite good. I and the wife went up to all of them and complimented them on it. This got VERY good response. Virtually all of these chicks would sit down with us and talk for a bit, even if they were with their own group/husband.
