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Here it is:
Generally speaking, it is much more difficult to quickly lay a woman who is over the age of 33, unless you already know her well beforehand.
Now before your fingers start flying with negative responses, lets examine the exact wording of what I just said.
“Generally speaking…”
That means there are exceptions to the rule, as always. Please don’t waste your time pointing out the exceptions to me. Yes, there are sometimes drunken 36 year-olds at the clubs who have just broken up with their BFs who are cruising for cock or a revenge fuck. Yeah yeah. But this is not the norm and you know it. Generally speaking, in MOST cases, what I said is true.
“…it is much more difficult…”
I said much more difficult. I didn’t say impossible. It can be done, but it usually takes more time, more effort, and your lay success ratios are going to much lower if you focus primarily on women over age 33. If you have two guys who are the same age, same looks, and same level of game, and guy A focuses only on women well under 33, and guy B focuses only on women over 33, guy A will kick his ass down the street all day long in terms of lay ratio success.
“…to quickly lay…”
Quickly lay, as in an SNL or easy day2 lay. Sure, you could go on a bunch of AFC-like dates, surrender to her ASD, MPS, and quasi-feminist demands, and eventually lay her, assuming she doesn’t get bored with you before then. (Have fun with that.) I said quickly.
“…a woman who is over age 33…”
This is self-explanatory. I have been out on a lot of dates over the last year or two (well over 100) with women of all ages (youngest was 18, oldest was 49), and I can tell you from my observations, as well as talking to other experienced guys who have dated all ages, age 33 (or close to it) does seem to be the cutoff point where a woman’s ASD and MPS really goes into overdrive, as does the “I’m a catch! Men need to do what I say and treat me like a lady!” stuff. None of these things are conducive to a quick and easy lay.
Generally speaking, for every year that goes by in a woman’s life, she gains a little more ASD and a little more MPS. Go game a 23 year-old, then go game a 42 year-old, and you’ll see exactly what I mean.
“…unless you already know her well beforehand.”
That’s the one big exception to this rule I will acknowledge. IF you already know her from your work or social circle or whatever, then she’s not as hard to lay. She’s likely going to be just as easy as a younger woman. But I’m not talking about “social circle game”. I’m talking about cold approach, real pickup. I’m talking about women you meet via cold approach who are strangers (via daygame, online game», whatever). When a woman is over 33 and you are strangers, quick easy lays are very difficult.
Bottom line, if you want to get laid a lot, if you want quick easy lays, STAY AWAY FROM WOMEN OVER AGE 33 (unless you already know her well first).
If or some crazy reason you still disagree with me, fine. Do this experiment:
Set up 10 first dates/meets with 10 women who are age 34 or higher. You can use any method you want to set up these dates (daygame, club game, online game», speed dating, whatever). Track how many of these women you fuck by the end of the day2.
Then, set up 10 more first dates/meets with 10 women who are age 26 or younger. Track how many of these women you fuck by the day2.
You will very quickly see what I’m talking about. When you go for the fast lay with the younger chicks, they will be excited to take their clothes off. When you go for the fast lay with the older ones, you’re going to get a lecture on “how to treat a lady”, regardless of your level of game. Yeah, I’m exaggerating a little, but I’m not wrong. You get my point.
Really. If you really think I’m full of shit, try it. I guarantee you, you will lay more of the younger chicks by the end of the day2 than you do the older ones. Regardless of your age or level of game.
Now just to be “fair and balanced”, I will admit the following:
* Older women do generally have much higher sex drives than younger women, ONCE YOU FUCK THEM. So once you’re in relationship-mode with an over 33 woman, she’s going to want your cock much more often than, for example, a 23 year-old chick. This is certainly true. But the difficulty of fucking the older chick the first time still disqualifies them, at least IMO. I guess if you’re an older “frequency guy”, looking for a mono-GF, and don’t mind a very slow initial lay, then an over 33 year-old might be appropriate for you. Also, if you’re one of those guys who “like a challenge” or “like the battle”, then fine, you might like these older chicks too. Me, I like quick and easy sex. Call me crazy.
* Older women are generally smarter and have more depth. I agree with this. But that doesn’t mean there aren’t younger women out there who are just as smart and deep. They’re not common, but they are out there. Plus, if you’re out to get laid a lot and/or be great at PU, women’s intelligence and depth shouldn’t be something you should be worrying too much about.
OK, I’m done.
There seems to be some…confusion over this. So I’m going to be VERY clear about his.
