Weevil is a member of the mASF forum. Acronyms used in this article can be looked up on the acronyms page. To get involved in discussions like this, you can join the mASF discussion forum at fastseduction.com/discussion.
Original discussion thread: http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/fs?action=9&boardid=2&read=102231&fid=24
Anyway,
Fast forward:
This is the story of how I went though FB, CLTR, nothing then OLTR with a HD HSE independent woman.
I met her at a party, when I was first starting out, got a bit too drunk and overdid the c&f so it was more C and not so f. miscalibrated. Thought I was blown out, but we kept bumping into each other and things seemed cool. I stopped gaming because I was just happy we were still talking (it was that baddddd)
Went to a mutual friends birthday party. She had a suitor after her who had a lot of money, dressed to success, and basically a lot of confidence crutches and the complete opposite of me in those regards but was a complete chode. He kept buying her love, literally, then would throw shit fits that she didn’t fall in love with him. Nothing physical ever happened between them but the first night I met her at a party long time ago he was hovering around her like a hawk.
Anyway, I was there first, and she arrived. We are all hanging out as a group. When he arrives he is all over her in an aggressive way, reprimanding her, calling her a slut, a dyke, and trying to get her to tell him why she doesn’t love him and not understanding how things work basically. She felt really uncomfortable and came and sat next to me. (we were at a bar at a big table)
This is where I begin to game her again. I took note of the situation: creepy guy, emotionally unstable creating drama at a birthday party of his best friend. Making HB feel uncomfortable.
Solution: make fun. Distract
So we talk, I make fun of things, joke a lot, basically make her laugh. Light kino throughout.
HB : confident, but very introverted. “classy”. Wine and dine type. Normal game needs to be adjusted. New paramaters loaded. = Kino escalation has to be really slow.
Anyway, during this whole time, the chode keeps buying her beers and putting them infront of her “FOR YOU!” (lol). I ran out and the queue was long so I said “hey, you going to drink those?” to the HB. No she said and I drank the beer he had bought for her. At this point, the chode is getting really jealous. A fight breaks out. I don’t know who he was going for, but I think he was swinging for me, when a friend gets inbetween. HB at this point is about to go. We go to leave the garden and chode follows. I take my glasses off. He approaches. I defuse the situation the best I can but I can tell he is an emotional wreck, and has already resorted to violence. Me, her, and birthdaygirl leave the beer garden and I walk her the whole way to the stop. Birthday girl turns back halfway. I keep going, to build comfort but to make sure the chode isn’t following her. Say goodnight, squeeze her hand. (small escalation)
(The chode tries to fight me once more later that night but his best friend intervenes and they create a scene…..)
2 days later: go out for a drink or two with HB, we talk and laugh. I want to make sure psycho chode is leaving her alone. Build comfort. When we say goodbye, hug, then I pull her in for a quick peck on the lips.
3 days later: meet for a couple of drinks. Psychochode is out of country. Good. Build good comfort and vibe. Minial kino. End of the night I pull her in, go for quick makeout. Then leave.
One Week later: invite her to go ghost hunting to the castle. Me and her go. Lots of fun. Lots of makeouts. Take her back to mine, but she LMRs me. The next weekend we have sex on her initiative (because I left it up to her)
Reasoning: HB had limited number of sexual partners. She is of conservative mind set, emphasis on classy behavior. Been single for a while mostly due to bad previous experience and working wayyy to much for anykind of relationship much less close friendships. Slow kino to minimize LMR and to go into the hand of classy behavior, which she values highly. Think high society kind of mentality, Victorian, courting etc etc. If she makes the decision to do it, (correction = if she thinks she makes the decision to do it ? ) it decreases LMR and prevents games/bitch shields/etc. I was slowly upping the kino to get her to think about it more, and make her “own” decision. She was surprised it didn’t take long (2 weeks total, day4lay) because previous it took months for the other guys.
Kept OLTR frame. All is good.
A chode acquaintance messages her on fb. They never met in rl. We end up at a party and I introduce him. I know hes interested. But I thought it would be funny. He falls in love. Chases her. Gives her more attention and validation than me (nonstop 24/7 kind) sigh one more chode.
She tries to LJBF me. And I get emotional (wtf didn’t expect it) we talk, we decide to try a CLTR. Chode2 had something to do with this, because she was unconsciously comparing and there was some attraction between them. CLTR for one month. I am miserable. I would love a CLTR but a perfect CLTR. This wasn’t it. She couldn’t emotionally close to me at all, and I was miserable because now I had tied myself down. (yea yea afc afc afc go fuck yourself) After a month I broke it off, but she was feeling the same. There was no difference than when we were just having fun, and it was worse in some way. Soft next for a month, then I would see her about once a week for 45mins or so for lunch. I leave the country for 3 weeks. Then I get back.
Next Step
She wants to go get drinks. We haven’t seen each other and barely spoken in a month and a half or so. We have a great time, but I want to start laying her again. Back to game: change parameters. Initial resistance broken, comfort built, new mission : bring back her horniness. Decide to go crazy on the kino. Kino her like crazy as were talking, caveman jr. (all infront of psychochode who showed up and bought us 2 glasses of champagne…..)
On the way home fingered her in the street (there goes the classy….. this is the girl who would get self conscious making out in a dark corner of the bar). Shes on her period, tries to LMR I say “its ok I have extra sheets for this occasion. No clean-up!) were back. Been in this OLTR for a few months since. Its been perfect. No games, very few shit-tests (some I failed but it didn’t matter) and she isn’t looking for more than I am willing to give from me. She admits that this is the first kind of relationship like that for her, and she has a sneaking suspicion that I am a super player from my c&f» jokes (which I am not haha). Win win for both of us.
Lessons:
- Shy, kino-resistant, independent women need a slower escalation curve.
- Try to get them to “pick you up” (but you are really the puppet master)
- Classy people – it doesn’t matter if you get really horny. Also, this helps in keeping a girl around
- Attraction lost when afc comes out. Regained after caveman comes out.
- Strong frame saves you a lot of trouble
- Even girls that you wouldn’t expect would do this can be encouraged and trained, as long as they are in on it, and aren’t aware they are being gamed (at this point they shouldn’t be) or tricked (same thing at this point imo)
Thoughts?
