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TokyoPUA reviews a Mystery Method Stripper
Seminar (& mini-workshop!):
On July 18th Form and I attended Mystery’s 1-day seminar on picking up strippers. The
seminar was held in Montreal, Canada.
Mystery sat us down in a nicely appointed boardroom style room at the hotel, and
proceeded to tell us that he had done a “bait and switch†on us, because we
would not only learn how to pick up strippers, but “hired guns†in general. He
said the concepts would be applicable to bartenders, strippers, waitresses, and
even supermodels or celebrities. For Mystery, the hardest part of his game now
is actually finding the women of quality that he wants to meet, and in the case
of “hired gunsâ€, someone else has gone to that effort for him.
The seminar was an engrossing experience. It was simple in format and done in a
comfortable atmosphere, with Mystery basically sitting at the head of the table
with students flanking him attentively while he broke down in extreme detail the
audio of an actual in-field pickup of a stripper that he had done about a year
ago.
I found myself typing as fast as I could in order not to miss a beat, as the
material was simply genius. In all, I took 18 pages of typewritten notes. I had
once years ago experimented with Mystery’s “stripper rules†with Rio at an after
hours place in Tokyo frequented by dancers, and wound up getting the number of a
bisexual stripper who kept calling me even though she had returned to Prague and
we never got to meet again. Now, years later sitting in the seminar, I was
thinking I should have kept trying with the stripper rules. But, I was also
realizing how much more improvement Mystery had made in his understanding of
strippers and, more broadly, the Venusian arts in general. Absent from the old
post I had read was the profile of the stripper, as well as Mystery’s ideas
about how and why women select men. Also absent was the new
M3
model of courtship (available on the MM web site), which sounded more and more like genius as the workshop
went on. But in this seminar, there were all these concepts and many more.
Some examples of just a few of the many specific and valuable concepts related
to strippers Mystery covered were:
-how to get value with the strippers by befriending the DJ, and how to do that
-how to keep a stripper from thinking of you as a customer
-how to demonstrate value for a stripper, and understand her world
-what things to say, and what things NEVER to say
-the best nights to go and why
-where to sit and why
-tons of examples of exact lines and routines used by Mystery
-how to make them see you as the “stripper boyfriend†type
At the end of the classroom portion of the seminar, Mystery rallied the troops
and says “so do you want to go pick up some strippers!?†and after an
enthusiastic chorus of “hell yeah!!!â€, we all proceed to find a nearby strip
club, chosen by one of the students from Montreal. We all piled in, and Mystery
went to work without hesitation on one of the first dancers to pass by. She was
totally into him, but has to go up on stage.
Mystery then gets on the students for not attempting anything. He reminds us
about the factors that will cause strippers to see you as a loser. Lesson duly
noted and the students do their best to talk to the strippers. I get into
conversation with a stripper who looked great on stage, but closer up is older
than I like, and turns out to be what Mystery has told us is in his stripper
profile lecture is a “liferâ€. I let him know I am not into it but that I will
keep it up for the practice, and he says that is a good idea. I bring in one of
the students into the set with her so that he can observe, and then turn things
over to him. From there I go sit behind Mystery’s new gorgeous target, and
listen in on what he is saying.
It’s amazing to hear basically everything he had told us in the seminar being
repeated basically verbatim to this girl. At first I thought she might not be
buying what he had to say, but I noticed her body language» open up to him, and
her reactions started showing definite interest. She went on stage, but instead
of taking other customers for dances immediately afterwards like the other
dancers were doing, she returned faithfully to Mystery. He probably talked to
her for about an hour in total, and at the end he got her phone number and set
up a day two meet. I had the distinct feeling after listening and watching the
whole process that Mystery really could have chosen any woman in that bar and
gotten the same result. I later heard back from him that when he met up with her
for the day 2, she brought another stripper along with her, and now it’s on with
BOTH of them!
It turned out that none of the students had taken the Mystery method» bootcamps
before coming to the stripper seminar. They were still very impressed with the
material, and had all resolved to take the bootcamp. The seminar was definitely
worthwhile on its own, but to get the most out of it, you might as well spring
for the bootcamp first, because you will surely want to after you see Mystery in
action! But in any case, if you want strippers, waitresses, supermodels (did I
forget to mention he showed us a video of him getting a supermodel’s phone
number, too?)
then
this seminar is for you!
~TokyoPUA, 2005-07-27
From alt.seduction.fast.general, 2002-02-27:
daringnyc:
Let me first explain my background. I came across ASF in early 2000 which was the first time I heard about Mystery. In November 2000 I bought the SS BHSC. After that, I was focusing solely on SS until I realized that I still had difficulties with SS in the bar and club environment.. Since I am also subscribed to Cliff’s List, I educated myself on different theories such as the Mystery Method». I read Mystery’s posts and was really impressed by his determination and aggressive PUA online persona. Since some of Mystery’s posts on ASF sounded too good to be true, I was initially skeptical about Mystery and his methods. However, I kept an open mind to his utterly different theory and then realized that this guy is the real deal.
The idea of MM is to convey an immensely attractive personality through witty openers, gimmicks and story telling. You’ll learn how not to give a fuck and just play the game for the sake of the game. A phone number is merely a bonus. Group theory takes a lot of energy and determination to become good at but once you are, you can work your magic. Group theory works and it rocks to see the results but is not for everyone. It can only be learned if you have the courage to crash and burn multiple times on different 2sets, 3sets and more.
On the third day of the workshop I had a blast safely approaching a 5set of 4 big black guys and 1 really stunning black HB: a 9.5 – no kidding! Hence, I am now determined to combine the knowledge gained from the MM workshop with my SS knowledge, which will ultimately result in my becoming a Killer PUA, armed with personality-conveying group theory skills and SS skills (which can only be used later when you phase-shift into 1-on-1 dialogue). I’d like to point out that SS is for people who merely want to focus on walkups outside of the club and bar environments. Unfortunately, most of the really hot babes can be found in 3sets in bars/ clubs and not in malls or coffee shops. If you want 10s and want to get good in this environment, then sign up for the MM workshop and have a blast internalizing those skills. If you prefer to have it the easy and less successful way, stick to your current game.
During the 3 day workshop I realized that Mystery is actually a cool guy. He exudes confidence with a very dynamic and outgoing (“talkative”? LOL) personality. He is a real performer and it is amazing to see him work the room. He told us that he was unsuccessful with women until the age of 21, so if he could do it, anyone who is determined enough can do it, too! Granted, he also relies on his magic, which is difficult for others to model but it was all the more impressive to see his wingman be as successful with MM without using magic.
Mystery told us that he used to perform stage hypnosis, which is much faster than the typical SS approach and gave us a demonstration of his knowledge in this area. I remember reading about his expertise in hypnosis on Cliff’s List, which I found difficult to believe since I couldn’t recollect him mentioning it before. Through this demonstration he gained a lot more credibility in my eyes since I then realized that he is not only well-versed in his own methodology but also in the area of hypnosis which he CHOSE not to pursue any longer.
My conclusion after this demonstration is that Mystery could easily use his stage hypnosis skills to be successful with women but decided to work on conveying an exciting personality through his Mystery Method» instead. To me, this demonstrated even more how powerful MM is: An atomic weapon in the bar/club environment.
From alt.seduction.fast.general, 2002-01-28:
flamesinmyheart
: I just finished the Sex Magic workshop this past Saturday in Toronto (the workshop took place January 24-26). Here is my outing report and review on it. It is somewhat long, but I want to highlight what I thought were the major points of the workshop. For the lazy bums among you, skip ahead to my summary at the end.
Day 1
There were only two students – a Canadian SSer, who’s a friend, and I – tonight. We met up with Mystery at the Indian Motorcycle Club in Toronto. I’d met Mystery before a year ago in Toronto (I’m from Buffalo). For about 3.5 hours, Mystery asked us questions, explained his philosophy, and elaborated on the format of the Mystery Method». He gave us advice on our dress and style and so on. I was told, for example, that I could pull off doing a model routine, and that I should frost my hair, and get a fake tattoo on my neck. He also talked a lot about the game metaphor for pick-ups. We were thrown a lot this night. After this lecture, we headed downstairs (we were on the third floor, which was relatively deserted) and went into action. We all put on big smiles as we entered. I am not used to smiling all the time when I am out at clubs, so this took a little getting used to. But, as Mystery said, the biofeedback when you smile does lighten your mood a little. Immediately, as I went to check my coat, Mystery told me to approach the coat check girl, and gave me an opener and a routine to do. I went in with a big smile, said “hi”, and delivered my stuff. It was great – she was smiling and definitely intrigued – some nice reactions. After a short time, I exited gracefully and said that I would catch her later in the night. This was a good start to an eye-opening weekend. The place has a slightly older crowd – more people in their 30s and early 40s and not as many in their 20s. The rest of the night, Mystery pointed out what sets to approach, gave us some good openers and a couple of routines, and had us dive into action. It was fast-paced and fun. He also demonstrated with a few sets, and I learned a good deal by watching him work a room. His flashy displays and magic tricks attracted attention, and not just from the set he was working on. I could see heads turn in his direction in his vicinity, people intrigued and fascinated by what this guy was doing. There were lots of smiles and laughter, and one woman went up to him afterwards and complimented him on his amazing “kinetic energy.” A guy bought him a drink because he’d seen Mystery on TV.
I approached about 4 sets tonight. Although I didn’t get any closes, I did learn a good bit. I got experience in approaching groups. One of the first sets I approached, I went in asking, “Do you believe spells work?” This was addressed to a couple, which was part of a larger group. The woman asked me later if I just go up to people asking this question. I said yes, because my friends and I were having a discussion about the movie Poltergeist, and I was curious as to what others’ opinions were. She thought it was very cool that I did this. Now, before the workshop, I would rarely approach groups. Groups intimidated me, especially ones with guys in them. But I learned that groups are really not so scary, and that guys are great to talk to and befriend! On the other hand, one-sets suck. Mystery had me approach a one-set to learn why it sucks. Sure enough, a minute after I approached the one-set, her friend came over and distracted her, taking her away. Still, she asked me for my name as I was exiting, and that’s an IOI (indicator of interest).
At the beginning of the night, Mystery had pointed out a very cute waitress that he wanted. The timing was not right then, though, and he did not go in. Later in the night, he spotted the same waitress walking around and stopped her with “I wanted to meet you.” Then, he went into his routine, talking with her about 7 minutes standing and moving her to the couches and talking to her there for another 10 minutes or so. During this time, he was able to handle an guy obstacle who entered. There was good kino soon enough, and he ended up number-closing her (and getting a mouth-closed kiss). It was impressive stuff.
After this, as the place was dying, we went near the dance floor (where we would normally never be), and Mystery did a few magic tricks on the dance floor. He moved in on a two-set, and found out that the guy was the boyfriend. He did not hit on her, so it was fine, and he exited nicely.
On the whole, even though I did not approach as many sets as I had hoped to do – I was busy watching Mystery demonstrate much of the time – I still learned A LOT from this night. Mystery’s showmanship and magnetic presence were quite impressive. One complaint would be that he was not watching us closely as we approached the entire time, and we needed to tell him what happened in order for him to give us feedback. This is understandable, though, since he is only one person, and he cannot be watching or talking to everyone at the same time. Also, Mystery was without a wingman the entire weekend, and it would have been nice to at least have one experienced wingman help the students while Mystery might have been busy watching and helping another student. Finally, we spent only about 2.5 hours in the field, when I wished we could have spent closer to 3.5 hours. This can be excused, however, since the expository material, which was quite valuable, took up a lot of time.
On the whole, a good night. I am not usually this comfortable at making approaches, but armed with some good openers and routines, and seeing the field as just a PRACTICE field, I did not feel any fear in approaching sets. I pretended it was a Holodeck. It was great.
Day 2
We met up for the initial talk at Chapters, a bookstore. Another student, who had missed the first night, showed up. Unfortunately, we spent the bulk of the time getting this third student up to speed. I can see that he’s pretty inexperienced, and would potentially have a tough time at the workshop. In my opinion, the workshop is not designed for a complete newbie. Mystery will point out a set, give you some pointers on how to open, and you are literally approaching in the next 3 seconds. The other student and I had gone clothes shopping at the mall earlier in the day, and I was sporting some cool clothes. Mystery was disappointed that I still had not gotten a fake tattoo – I did not have time – oh, well. 🙂 The third guy, however, was completely unprepared for the night. He was dressed in a white shirt and tie, and jeans. The jeans would later cause problems.
I have nothing personal against this third student, but I think Mystery should make it a policy for students to attend all three nights. We spent too much time backtracking and reviewing things for this third student and too little time learning new things. Instead, I would have wanted him to teach us a few more routines. I still only had 2 or 3 routines to entertain groups with, and I did not feel quite prepared for the night.
We headed to a bar across the street. Our plan was to stay at the bar for at most 40 minutes, and then head to a club that Mystery got us on the guest list at. Things did not turn out as planned, however, because the third student could not get nice pants at that time of the night, and he was not going to get in with jeans. This was a disappointment for me, as I did not quite like the first place (I did not think there were enough targets, for one thing), and I was hoping to only stay for a short time. But I was still determined the make the most of the evening.
I approached more sets tonight – about 6 or 7 in total. We got a good 3.5 hours in the field. I fucked up the groups quite a few times – approaching the target first by accident, approaching a set that had already been approached by my friend, approaching a group at a pool table and not being able to get the attention of the target, etc. – but I still learned from all of them. Again, it was quite helpful to watch Mystery in action as he entertained and dazzled one set after another. He number-closed a cute beer girl quite easily, even while she was distracted by customers trying to buy beer. When he wasn’t getting IOIs from the target in one set he worked for about 15 minutes, he introduced me to a couple of girls and told me to demonstrate graphology (handwriting analysis), which I’m great at. Soon, I had a girl (one of Mystery’s obstacles) isolated and was doing her handwriting. She looked cute from a distance, but when I got closer, she turned out to be old – not ancient, but older than I usually go for (I’m 25). Still, I had a good time with her and talked to her about energy and Huna and that kind of stuff. She was all into it, and I was getting some good reactions. I could have probably number-closed her, but I chose not to. Soon enough, Mystery’s target (which he didn’t get enough IOIs from) entered our group and commented that we seemed to be in a deep conversation. It was all happening so fast, and I didn’t immediately recognize that this girl might have actually been interested in me. I only talked with her very briefly. If I had better skills, I might have been able to turn this into a close, but it was still a good learning experience. I exited soon after that, but I could still see the girls kind of looking over at me later in the night. I learned the power of enthusiasm and smiling.
Mystery’s most amazing demonstration was his last set of the night. He spotted a birthday party group, found the perfect angle at which to enter, and after entertaining the entire group with a couple of routines, found himself on the couch right next to his target! He is going one-on-one with her, fascinating her with his many routines, and getting good kino and other IOIs. My friend and I are watching all of this from a few feet away. The cool thing is that Mystery had pointed this girl out as the girl he wanted earlier in the night. She is definitely hot, almost an HB9. A guy cockblock enters later, and Mystery enlists my help to get rid of him. I happily obliged. 🙂
Soon, the place is closing up, and Mystery goes for the number close. The birthday girl, who I actually talked to earlier and who is pretty drunk by now, tries to wreck the whole thing. She tries to pull the target away (Mystery didn’t get an opportunity to disarm this obstacle earlier), but it doesn’t matter. It’s clear that the target is really into Mystery, and she was not going to be simply pulled away by her friend. Her friend tries to take the pen away from her as she is writing her number, but she is unsuccessful. Eventually, the friend manages to pull the target some distance away from Mystery, and you can hear Mystery saying, “Who’s in control…who’s in charge?” This simple challenge motivates the girl to move back towards him, but her friend is too strong, and Mystery walks out of the room after her. Mystery tells the target that he will call her at 2 pm the next day, and the friend says, “I’ll be there.” None of this interference from the obstacle matters. It was an impressive display.
Day 3
My friend and I went to a magic shop and picked up a thumb tip, which is a great tool, a book on mentalism, and some other stuff. We are working on expanding our repertoire of routines and tricks.
We meet up at Chapters again. Mystery told me to approach a two-set with a HOT blonde (the obstacle was pretty hot as well), which I discovered soon enough was a little young (maybe 16), but still had some fun with them. I did some handwriting analysis, got them smiling and laughing, and tried to go for a quick close. I fumble the number close – she mentions a serious boyfriend – but I learn. I needed to do more work before going for a close. She was vegetarian anyways. 😉
In the meantime, Mystery has entered a two-set with a hot brunette and a guy friend. He would discover later that she is only 15 (she definitely looked older – about 18), but, what the hell, we are just having fun, and 14 is the age of consent in Canada. 😉 He entered with the pretext of borrowing a chair from their table, but worked his magic right away. After about 10 minutes, she joined our table, and he demonstrated runecasting. It’s brilliant, and both the girl and the guy are absolutely floored by the demonstration. Mystery presented himself as an authority – she wanted to be a singer, and he told her he is a performing artist. He gets a number close, and we dissected runecasting downstairs. Runecasting is an awesome routine!
We headed to a strip club next. Mystery’s girlfriend actually works at the place. He had some fun with the waitresses, totally breaking their frames and their programs. He went into an analysis of how to work strip clubs, and it’s absolutely brilliant stuff. Mystery has had several stripper girlfriends, and he knows more about how to work strip clubs than anyone else I know. As he explained his strategies, I see the beautiful logic of it all. Although I rarely go to strip clubs, it’s definitely golden advice for when I do decide to hit one later. Mystery also taught up mnemonics and the money bag routines – all good stuff.
My friend bought the POWER-LEV from Mystery; it’s a device that he invented. Get this device if you really want to dazzle a girl! It allows you to levitate beer bottles and other heavy objects right in front of an HB. Mystery would sometimes spot a group, take 30 seconds to do the trick and then just walk away! You invariably get wide-mouthed reactions, and the girls beg you to come back to do more!
We headed to a rather exclusive club next. Mystery’s sorta-girlfriend was supposed to get us on the guest list, but, for some reason, we are not, and I was a little annoyed. I was hoping to hit a place with a more exclusive crowd (and hopefully more HBs), especially after what happened the previous night, but we had no luck. We went instead to a bar called the Fez Batik. The place is okay – not too many HBs, but still a decent practice area. The place is a little strange, and I don’t do very well tonight. The first set, for example, went nowhere. I approached a group and found myself talking to only one of the obstacles. My energy is somewhat lacking, and I only get lukewarm reactions from this set. Also, the ESP routine that Mystery taught us does not work for me AT ALL. It failed every single time, and I lost credibility early. I think I am going to ditch this routine. Anyways, at the end, I exit, and I swear that this dumbass AFC guy sitting near the girl starts busting up laughing. I was tempted to kick his ass (and I easily could have), but I didn’t want to waste my energy and deal with this stupidity, so I moved on to greener pastures. Incidentally, I had this huge zit on my face near my eye the entire weekend, and I’m pretty sure that this took away from the effectiveness of my approaches this weekend, especially tonight. What perfect timing for a zit! Grrr… After this zit is gone, however, watch out! 🙂
I only did about 4 sets at the bar. I messed up one two-set that approached later in the night. I tried to address the obstacle more, but she actually didn’t hear me and started dancing! So I ended up talking to the target, who turned out to be pretty ugly on closer inspection. She wasn’t reacting well to my routines, so I quickly exited after giving her a neg. As I turned, I think that the same AFC dumbass from before started laughing (I didn’t bother to look at his face). This asshole must have been following me or something and watching me from a distance. What a loser. Next time I see him, he’s getting his ass whipped.
The second set I approached was a two-set. I did not do very well and I managed to ignore the target (about an 8) too well and she left! So I ended up talking to the obstacle (about a 7) exclusively and thought I would get some practice in closing. I did a few of Mystery’s routines, but also added in my own routines. By this time, I was making up stories on my own and getting out rough versions of 2 or 3 of my own routines. One of the benefits of the workshop is that as you engage in conversations with your sets or even your friends, you find that you get fresh ideas for stories or routines all the time, and I love it! Anyways, after running some routines and SS patterns and some value elicitation, I simply go for the number close. I got the number even though the girl knew I lived in Buffalo. 🙂
Mystery got two numbers tonight. He closed an HB9 near the bar. It was pretty amazing, because he simply blasted through her resistance. At first, when he went for the close, she said, “Well, you can meet me here next Saturday.” Mystery told her, ‘No, that’s not what we’re going to do…” He went on to tell her that he will meet up with her soon, and that he will call her the next day. She must have been pretty shocked at this response, and went silent. He got the number soon afterwards, and she was mouthing “Tomorrow” to him as he was walking away. Great stuff!
Near the end of the night, Mystery worked a set on the couches. I did not see the entire approach, but towards the end, he was holding an HB’s hand, getting good kino, and as she is walking away, she says to him, “You’re a bad boy…you are so bad…” It was some kick-ass stuff, because that is precisely the image that Mystery intends to present. I was pretty amazed that the girl actually said this to him. This girl was HOT, too – she was definitely a 9.
At the end of the night, Mystery gave each of us his assessments of our performances. He told me that I am the fastest of the group – I cannot disagree with a master. 😉 He said that I just need to practice more and come up to speed so that I can go sarging with him some more.
All in all, despite a few mishaps and some disappointments, this was a great workshop and definitely worth the money. I feel that I can take the skills and knowledge I picked up from the workshop, read up more on the Mystery Method», especially the specific routines, and in a month or two, after tons of practice, become GREAT at doing pick-ups in bars and clubs. There’s A LOT to absorb during the workshop, so don’t worry if you feel a little overwhelmed and don’t become instantly good at your pick-ups. I know I did not exactly come out with all of my guns firing. But I also know that I WILL internalize all of this soon enough, and I will be posting some great outing and lay reports soon – watch for them! HBs in Buffalo will have never seen anyone like me. 😉
Summary
1. If you are fairly comfortable at approaching girls, and don’t stall in your conversations after just a minute or two, this workshop WILL improve your skills. If you NEVER approach girls, however, and cannot accept failure and being more than who you currently are, this workshop will not be very helpful.
2. Mystery is an amazing performer and PUA. All the girls he closed this weekend were hot.
3. I wish Mystery would have done a little less demonstrating and more working with the students individually. It would have been also helpful for him to have an experienced wingman there to help the students along.
4. I wish we had at least gone to a higher-class, more exclusive, and more beautiful-people place for at least one night. I felt there were not quite enough HBs at the places we visited, so I didn’t feel as motivated to approach and to close.
5. All in all, the workshop ROCKED. Mystery will teach, show, and have you DO the Mystery Method», and you will come out a different person. I know I have. 🙂
From alt.seduction.fast.general, 2003-01-06:
Veroxii (webmaster of auseduction.com)
: Mystery Method Workshop Review – Sydney, Australia. (2 – 4 January 2003)
Wow! What a way to start the New Year. I took the Mystery Workshop here in Sydney , and am incredibly thankful that I did. This is not going to be a full-on field-report (I might post one later), but simply my thoughts, views and insights on the workshop.
First off, I had the pleasure of meeting Mystery and Style a couple of days beforehand and spend some time with them. We didn’t do any sarging, but I was able to get a bit of a feel for who they are, how they view life and just generally how they do things. My first impressions: These guys are cool. Anybody would love to have these two as their friends. They are fun, accepting, interesting and have a good sense of humour. Which made me realize that these qualities are the ones I need to work on – Being a fun guy that attracts PEOPLE naturally, solves so many issues during a pick-up. It lets shields down, disarms obstacles and generally makes people happy. My lesson from this: You’ve got to INTERNALIZE all the material. You’ll be a better person for it. All your skills in PU, will translate directly and benefit you in life.
Talking about attitude, I must emphasize how impressed I was with both Style and Mystery’s attitude towards PU and women. Mystery totally adores and loves women. Seriously, he loves them deeply from his heart. He’s a hopeless romantic and seems to fall in love and almost mild one-itis every time he sees his perfect 10 (much to Style’s and my amusement!). This, I believe is so crucial to PU and is a big part of the puzzle that so many people miss. If you don’t love doing this, and you don’t feel that burning need and desire to get to know a beautiful woman better – to explore and discover her, then you’d better start doing those wrist exercises.
Fast-forward to the Workshop…
I have to commend Mystery on his professionalism. The workshop costs a lot of money (for some folk), and he handles it in an appropriate manner. His presentation is slick. He knows what he needs to say, and he doesn’t beat around the bush. Entering the private lounge where we were meeting up, he already started “showing off”, having fun with all the staff members there. I think all the students suddenly realized “omg, this is going to be amazing!” I went in with the mindset that I should forget everything that I thought I knew about PU, and be open to everything. I got to the point in my life where I wanted to say to Mystery: “Dude, I just want to consistently lay hot chicks. Tell me what to do, and show me how… and I’ll do it.” I wasn’t disappointed.
The first day is a huge information overload. Mystery gives some information on himself, and then launches into his philosophies on women and his theories – this being the Mystery Method». Topics range from attitude, peacocking, opening and internal states to closing, following up and just about everything else you can think of in between. This took a good 3-4 hours. But it’s inspiring. Another good aspect was that Mystery and Style took the time to talk to each of us individually, to find out where we’re at in the game, what our sticking points are and what we would like to achieve out of the workshop. And then they tailored the rest of it so that we could.
Mystery and Style both gave a little demo of how to open, and literally.. my mouth hung open in astonishment. I have NEVER seen someone open up groups with such ease and confidence and making it all look so natural. And it was with a crowd that I would normally consider “out of my league” (we were in the vip lounge of one of the most popular and up-market bars in town – there were QUALITY 9s and 10s everywhere… but all sitting down on lounges and not crowded at all – EXTREMELY intimidating to me).
So, having given us the basics, and a rough framework, they assigned us with our material to use and sent us into some sets. Normally I don’t have a problem opening groups, but I’ll admit that I was scared shitless this time. But I did it as Style instructed, and amazingly the 9s and 10s didn’t blow me off. And this was just a practice run. Things would only go better from here.
This was the pattern for the rest of the workshop. Do lots of sets getting comfortable with the material. Sometimes you were alone. Sometimes Mys or Style would join, or just listen from close-by. Sometimes I sat in on their sets. VERY practical and by the end of each night, we’ve had TONS of fun and also a fair amount of success. (by the second night, I could open and entertain large mixed sets without too much trouble).
I’ve read before-hand that some people complained about Mystery and Style sarging too much during the workshop and not really helping the students. My opinion on this was that they’ve given us all the info and theory, and it really helped me get confidence in the material to see them actually work 9s and 10s WITH THE EXACT SAME MATERIAL. There is no way that anybody will internalize and have success with all this in only 3 days. So forget about trying to perfect it. You’ll get a feel for it. And you’ll get about 30 sets under your belt, but that’s just the start. Take some time to watch (and model) the gurus. I learned more from watching Mystery’s actions and gestures and listening to his tonality and pacing, than just reading a routine off a piece of paper.
For instance, I thought I knew some of the routines and have used them in previous sarges of mine, but it turns out my idea of how it should sound and be conveyed differs hugely from Mystery’s. See, in the Mystery Method» everything has a purpose. And a specific place in the sequence. And it’s all designed to move the PU in the direction of attraction and a close. Mystery messed up one sarge by skipping one of his 13 steps. The step was in there for a reason, and when he left it out, it didn’t work out. Mystery Method» is not “just routines”. It’s a “method”… with some pre-fabricated content to fit that method.
At the end of the evening, we would have a little run-down of how it all went. We’d discuss the problems we encountered, and Mystery would give very specific advice on how to improve and correct that the next time. Also, we’d quickly overview the tactics we used once again.
The next night followed the same structure, but with new material and ideas for us to use, and getting us to go further down the 13 steps of the MM. Ok, this is turning into a field-report, so I’ll stop right there and just give my final thoughts. ;P
Did I achieve what I wanted from the workshop? Yes. My PU skills were unordered, without direction and very random (and redundant, eh!) I was at a plateau and couldn’t find any way to get better. 3 nights of the Mystery Workshop, and already the quality of my PUs have improved. I now only open sets that have a least an HB9 or 10 in there – and I ATTRACT them!! I feel confident in what I have to do, because I have a plan. And I know how to work the plan. And I know the plan works. 😉
Was I skeptical beforehand? Certainly. I have quite a few friends who are natural PUAs. One of my friends slept with 5 different chicks in a week once (including a threesome). Hardly AFC. And still I was completely BLOWN AWAY by the skill Mystery and Style showed. They could pick a SPECIFIC target, come up with a sure-fire strategy to work her set, and do it… with a VERY HIGH CHANCE of getting a close. It’s not a gamble. It’s not a “numbers game”. With a tight game, it’s possible to go for the quality girls that you want and deserve.
Is it worth the money? Absolutely. This was probably the single weekend with the most impact on my life, ever. “Life changing” On the second night of the workshop, it was as if something just “clicked” inside me. Everything became clearer. The confusion was gone. I get scared imagining what would’ve been if I DIDN’T take the workshop. ?
Do I recommend it? Let me think about that…. YEEEEES!!!! Two thumbs up.
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Readers of Fast Seduction 101 who have taken part in Mystery’s seminars/worksops are welcome to submit their own reviews.
