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Recent post by The_One, September 14, 2008

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I came to the community because I was fascinated by what attracted women to men. OK, I was even more fascinated by learning to apply that to benefit myself as well, especially when it came to cold-approaching.

Regardless of whether you're part of the community or not, you've probably heard the phrase “Man, that guy has game!”

What does that mean? How is it that one guy “Has game” and the next guys doesn’t? What does it really imply to even have game? What sort of a mystical power is this? What the f*ck is game anyway?

What if the guy who is some natural who is good with women and does not speak in 3 letter acronyms? He doesn't care about DHVs or LVDs.

Let me strip it down to its basic components for ya!

We say a guy “Has game” when he is pretty good at attracting women to himself. The good old 80/20 rule applies here. 20% of men probably have game and the other 80% sort of fall into various categories of having little to no game.

Regardless of whether a guy learned to be good attracting women through the seduction community or just happened to be naturally good at it, he possesses certain ingredients.

In fact, to make it really simple: Let’s back to the dude whom we deemed as a “Natural.” He’s never heard of the “Seduction Community” nor does he care about it. He is just good with women. He has game.

Well, here is what game really is broken down to 3 components:

ATTITUDE
(The balls factor)

This means having big balls, taking chances, and having some alpha-male characteristics. That means he is confident and has maybe an edge of cockiness even perhaps. It’s best summed up in the word Attitude. (Not attitude problem, but just an aura that the guy has high self-esteem.)

SOCIAL CALIBRATION&SOCIAL INTELLIGENCE
In the business, we call it “Calibration.” It’s Knowing what to say, and WHEN to say it! It’s Having an intuitive understanding of the type of women you’re talking to, and the circumstances you’re in.

Men who are players have some intuitive understanding of social dynamics. They know when to push and when to pull back a bit, they know are able to gauge their target demographic. It also means having a good nose for knowing when to go for the close because she is ready…..

I’ve met guys who have male-bimbos who were good at attracting certain type of women, only because they intuitively understood their target demographic (which happened to be other airhead females, but they’re good at working that target audience.)

Ability to Be INTERESTING and APPEALING on some level
Whether it’s through humor, great storytelling, or intriguing conversations, the guy is able to create interest on some level. This includes guys who are not even very intelligent, but they’re still able to tell idiotic stories of their exploits that engage their target demographic. (Picture the drunken idiot fraternity boy here.)

Most naturals seem to be pretty good storytellers. Even if they grew up in a small town and had the plain small town American experience, they’re still are good at conveying it.

You have to be interesting as a person on some level and story telling is one of those ways. Whether you’re an intellectual or a stereotypical jock, you have to be able to convey that on some level.

That’s all Game is. When you hear someone say, “That guy has game,” he basically has some attitude/confidence, is interesting and is able to calibrate well because he has social intelligence.

That’s it!

The riddle is solved!

Guess we can all go home now and resume our normal lives. If it’s that simple, why is it difficult for some guys to get it? Or rather, why don’t some guys ever improve significantly?

That’s because each of the main 3 points can take time to develop and there are a lot of nuances to be learned within each of the aforementioned areas.

I told Jay [Formhandle] about these 3 categories and he was very adamant about me mentioning that just because someone possesses these 3 qualities, does not mean they can go and pick up women everywhere and anywhere.

He has a point. I can see how the post would be misconstrued. (Plus I don't want to experience his wrath on this website!] So, let's keep it in perspective:

This post is merely drawing an outline. It’s a bird’s eye view, a macro description of the entire process. It’s not an end-all, be-all solution, but rather a broad roadmap.

Guys who are good and do well consistently have learned what their demographic is and what environments they do best in. (I suppose this’d fall under calibration anyway. There will be an important future blog entry about target demographics, something nobody in the community is talking about.)

Learning your environment
Some guys are great at the bar/night club scene but don’t like approaching much during normal every day hours. Then there are guys who just hate bars/clubs and they don’t do well in bars and nightclubs. Yet, they’ve done consistently well for themselves despite not being bar people.

Others have learned to meet girls effectively working their social circle scene. Some had jobs or careers that were conducive to meeting women, doormen, bartenders, bouncers, DJs, club promoters and etc.

Some guys have learned to do really well meeting women online.

Despite where and how they meet women, these guys excel at these areas. This post is not about pickup artists. It’s about men who attract women on some level and do well for themselves.

This blog entry is designed to provide you with a [very general] roadmap of sorts to allow you to see where you need to make improvements. Maybe you want to date multiple women or maybe you want a good girlfriend whom you are attracted to physically and personality wise. Be honest with yourself and your sticking points.

Troubleshooting:

If you’re stuck and not getting decent results, you’re probably lacking in one of these areas.

**Lack of attitude/confidence
Ok, so you have learned some openers, some routines, and are able to get the conversation started but you lack balls. You are too caught up in what other people (including women) may think of you. You are held back by too much fear and hesitation. Or you could display needy and supplicating behavior, which are usual symptoms of a low self-image if you dig deep enough.

**Lack of Calibration
Maybe you don’t have that much fear or hesitation, but you just haven’t improved your social intelligence. Man, the seduction community is full of such guys. You say the wrong thing at the wrong time. You apply tactics when there is no need for tactics and you try to be alpha when there is no need to prove yourself.

You learn about negs and misapply them. You neg an archetype of woman when you should be complimenting her, and you compliment a type of woman whom you should be telling to fuck off. (Not in those exact words, however.)

**Not interesting or appealing
You are just not that interesting to be talk to. There is no appeal or lure to draw them to ya. This has nothing to do with physical attraction. It’s about personality. Maybe you have a great personality but you haven’t learn to convey that personality properly, or maybe you freeze up around women and then you can’t display your cool personality (which brings up the first issue: lack of attitude and overwhelmed by fear.)

Start working on the areas you need improvements on. At the end of the day, one thing is for sure: A guy who possesses the ingredients will do OK for himself. This isn’t about becoming a PUA, hitting on 5000 women a day, or bragging to your friends about your number-closes and other retarded community dogma.

It’s that the Man who,

1. Has Balls and confidence,
2. Possesses social intelligence and calibration,
3. and is Interesting as a person/human being will attract his fair share of females. This is despite race, hair, color, ethnicity, height, flashy clothes, religion, and other superficial differences.

Next time you see some random guy in your town, neighborhood or social circles who seems to do well with women, take a closer look and you’ll see that he possesses the aforementioned components. Perhaps you may be at a house party and you notice one guy who seems to have the women attracted to him.

Others will say, “Dude, that guy has game…..” but won’t be able to express why or how.

You will know exactly why.

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