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Recent post by Chopan, November 5, 2008

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I'm going to post this technique because it has worked for me many times now, without a single failure. As with any technique it may be working for me because of my particular skill level, some may not be able to use it and some that are better may not ever need this. This is just my own experience that I am sharing.

One of the most dreaded areas to ever be in with a girl you find attractive is LJBF. I almost never get this anymore, but there are occasions that it comes up with women that are in a particular situation. Either just getting into or out of a relationship, or perhaps someone that you just have not been able to stimulate and attract well enough. There are many reasons.

So now I have a very good sense of when I may be bordering this area. Instead of doing anything like running a JPL, nexting her, or trying to escalate, I simply reverse it and tell HER LJBF. When you do this to her before she has done it to you, it is a different animal. Right off the bat she starts asking herself "whats wrong with me?". Now you have gained freedom. You can run DHV material without much risk of coming across as try hard, because you already stated you are not interested. You can invite her out with your other girlfriends. You can freely speak about other women that find you interesting and ask her advice. You can touch her, flirt with her, do whatever you want to the max, because you are not "interested" in her. Once in a while when things are really good between you two, you start throwing in all your "too bads" in. "Too bad you are this way or I would have liked you".

She will go out with other guys and start telling you about it. Doesn't phase me one bit. I tool them all. I create little nicknames for the guys. "How's Captain Software?".... "how's G.I. Joe?"... whatever characteristic he has, take it to the max. He is tall? Call him Kareem Abdul Jabar. If he is good looking, call him Mr. Zoolander. If he is jacked, I call him Schwarzenneger... if he makes money, I ask her "How's the sex with Warren Buffet?". Never an insult, I am actually just describing him in an exagerrated way.

Lets say the guy is a jock with big muscles. I ask "How was your date? Did you guys do pullups once he took you back to his gym/apartment?"... "did he show you his big barbell set?".

You are tooling him everytime and believe it or not, the girls laugh. All this is being done easily why? because she is your best friend.

If you are any type of semi-skilled PUA, then you put her in situations where she is watching other women fall for you. What can she do but watch. You are friends. She may invite you to go out with her BF, right? Cool with me!!! I have the guy isolated, and she is standing there alone while her BF and I are laughing and downing beers. On the way home, he is telling her how cool I was.

You have time on your side. Lets face it, its only a matter of time before the guy fucks up, and she starts comparing his boring ass to you. Cracks start to appear. Now she is your friend, and you say "listen, I feel really bad you guys are breaking up. I don't want you to be sad, come on lets go have some fun". Take her out, let her have fun, she is again comparing Zoolander to you... And wondering why the fuck she is not with you instead. Then you are back at your place and oooops... one thing leads to another and you have really hot sex.

Then you start to "develop" feelings for her. "You know, maybe that was a mistake because after we had sex I don't see you the same way". You give her a legit reason for changing and taking her out of LJBF.

This works like a charm. This is field tested shit. You just have to have correct timing in putting her in LJBF. You have to be secure. If she is banging another guy, you can't be getting jealous. Most importantly, you absolutely, 100% cannot put her in LJBF after she has done it to you. Then none of what I have said here will work. This is the key. You maintain your frame.

It works for me because I know I am one attractive guy. If this dingbat doesn't see it and wants to be friends, then fine. I will show her what that is like.

In the end, I am actually doing her a favor anyway. I saved her from her dazed and confused self.

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