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Recent post by Corvette, December 22, 2008

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Another attention-seeking article from Corvette.

The Imprint Theory is required reading before going any further with this: http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/fs?action=9&boardid=2&read=88932&fid=8&FirstTopic=30&LastTopic=59

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Straight from The Mystery Method» (1st edition):

"..."negging"(making subtle-yet-negative statements that put your target off-guard and make her question her own value, increasing yours on a relative basis)."

From The Venusian Arts Handbook» (Mystery Method» 2nd edition):

"A neg is a qualifier. The girl is failing to meet your high expectations. It's not an insult, just a judgment call on your part."

Mystery is way off base with his ideas on what a neg is and the mechanism by which it works.

A neg isn't a qualifier, and it doesn't make her question her own value. A neg is, believe it or not, a rapport-gaining mechanism.

A neg achieves comfort by pointing out something she believes about herself anyway. If you're speaking to a girl called Crystal, it's a safe bet that you can call her a stripper and that will go down well. By nominative determinism, people will have been thinking that about her all her adult life anyway. You then find out she IS a stripper (people generally tend to cave in to nominative determinism eventually as a way to form congruency) and it's a safe bet you can "neg" her on having fake tits, taking drugs, and doing occasional porn.

This is exactly what I did last night, as I had the privilege to game Retard Wing's "date" for several hours.

On the surface these all seem like what Mystery would call negs. In reality you're just bringing up things about herself she already believes to be true.

When you build an interaction like that, and you show her you don't judge her for it, you get a very strong rapport - she actually becomes dependent on you because you're one of the only people she can be congruent around. Refer to the replies in my Imprint post and you'll see how I achieved the same with the rock star.

Now if you are negging girls on arbitrary things like "You seem stuck-up" (when she doesn't) or "Your nose wiggles when you laugh" (when it doesn't) you're just wasting your time. Yes, it might spike her insecurities for a moment. Then, if the girl has any self-esteem, she'll think "No I don't!" and what you've actually achieved is to lower comfort by breaking trust.

This is why you can go balls to the wall with negs and have VERY inconsistent results with them.

The negs needs to be personalized for the girl, and they need to discuss something she believes about herself anyway. Negs are a comfort-building mechanism. And if they're not, you're not doing them right.

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