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Recent post by pureevil, May 18, 2009

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The following is something I'm curious about but cannot test myself, and if any newbs care to indulge me I would appreciate it. This is for ultra-newbs making their first approaches.

I've found frank genuineness to rarely have an adverse effect in my interactions with girls, and in fact is a great attractor. For example, if a chick asks if I'm sleeping with other chicks, I don't dodge the question with something clever, but rather flat out say "Of course, I'm a 30 year old man. Perhaps one day a great girl will show me over time that she's the one for me, but until then I'm spending time with different potential girls until I find her." Why does this work for me? Its genuine, its really how I feel. You can't really fuck with that, you know? Occasionally the chick doesn't like like it, and in that case I let her go as she's obviously not right for me. Win/win either way. She's either down, or she's failed a qualification and I know I don't want her.

The field test I'm curious about takes that concept and applies it to the first approaches a guy who's never been with a girl makes. I see it working best during the day. Here it is:

-Look for what in your best judgement is a cool and confident girl. Not a shy girl.

-Walk up to her, smile, say "Hi," and make eye contact.
She could smile and say "hi" back to you, or she could very likely shoot you some sort of scary-to-a-newb look. This is normal. She's protecting herself from a potential threat, that's all.

-You (good EC): "I'm going to be honest here. You're (one of) the first girl(s) I've ever walked up to like this. I'm a pretty shy guy and I'm not that great with girls, but I'm over being like that and I have to start somewhere, you know? You looked like you're pretty cool, so here I am giving it a shot." Continue smiling.

-Allow that to sit for a moment as she'll probably reply to it, and, if she really is confident, take over the conversation, but if you need a follow up, go with "so you having a good day today?"

That's what I'd like tested. I'm very curious as to how girls will respond. I have a feeling it will work and you'll find yourself in a decent conversation about guys and girls, which is a good thing, and much better than being in a conversation about ice cream because you asked her where she got that ice cream cone or some other opener like that.

I also think this could be a good first approach as it will immediately demonstrate to the newb that there's really not that much to fear in being yourself and that you have nothing to prove to any chick, nor do you need to entertain her. You're just being who you really are: a shy guy with bad social skills trying to improve himself. As you make more approaches and get more comfortable, you can continue the concept and interact in a real way reflective of wherever you're personally at.

I can also see some girls being very interested in you after saying this. That's not a normal thing for a guy to say and really shows balls, much more than some other awkwardly miscalibrated rehearsed opener. She may enjoy taking advantage of your innocence and step up and escalate. Or you very well could have a female pivot to go into the field with in the future.

Any guys have the balls to field test this? I may be completely off and you'll have the most miserable approach experience possible, but I highly highly doubt it. I'm very curious. .

NEXT DAY EDIT:

I'd like to flesh out the inner game» portion of this in the main post, as it got worked out more in the discussion below. A strong frame and being congruent with yourself are the key elements in getting laid in my experience. By the very fact that you've recognized you're a (WB)AFC and want to improve, YOU HAVE A STRONG FRAME! Your frame in doing this approach is "CONFIDENTLY INEXPERIENCED." In other words "I'm a (WB)AFC and I'm out to improve, fuck anyone who has a problem with that!" You are exactly who you are, you do exactly what you do, and you're looking to the future to become a better man. THIS, IN AND OF ITSELF, IS ATTRACTIVE. With this attitude and this opener, you're set up to be completely congruent with yourself in the field, and have a very strong frame to back it all up.

Also important to inner game» in this approach: You're on a quest to understand women. Not to find a girlfriend or fall for someone. You will be approaching MANY WOMEN in order to BROADEN YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THEM, and you're going to OWN exactly who you are throughout the learning process. If a girl clowns you for being inexperienced, if she's cool and confident then she's doing it for fun. Own it with a laugh! "Yep. That's me. But not for too much longer. You better watch yourself, I'll be a lady killer soon!" (congruent cocky/funny). For the next couple of years, there is no "one woman." If you get blown out, no big deal, that's just another tiny piece of understanding the puzzle. No singular blowout should effect you at all, in fact no singular anything should effect you. Look for similar response patterns among multiple interactions. This is where the real info lies.

Hope this works for you guys! Let me know.

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