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Recent post by RagsToRich, June 9, 2009

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Sometimes I think I'm a little unique in this regard, but only because of some of the mainstream material stuff I read which is clearly horrible advice for someone like me.

Two years ago - the bitter, LSE, unemployed guy that I was; value reservation was important to me. Petty little battles meant a lot. If some dude cut me up in the road I'd be pissed for like a day, and I'd take it out on everything. Seriously.

Anyway that ego bullshit is something that has been known to eek into my being even today - but in a much different way.

See now I take the form, quite literally, of a high status guy. I act like it, I talk like it, and I certainly look like it.

When I start doing value reserving behaviour, or make a "cutting remark" to some chick, in or out of my social circle, these days it fucking HURTS them. I have seen it tons now. Sometimes I bring girls almost to tears, if only shown by their micro-expression.

Aside: What the fuck is a cutting remark? Well it's something I've done my my whole life, and for a while after discovering the community I thought I was doing something new called "negs", infact I was still doing the same old cutting remarks I always used to do except this time I was doing nuclear damage with them.

Edit: An Example of cutting remarks:

Rags: "Pff what's that dress all about?"
Rags: "HB? What kind of a name is that?"
Rags: "You're alright, but your hair looks like it was cut with a lawn mower." (Really AWFUL example of push pull).

If any of that above shit works for you, the girls around your way are higher esteem than mine.

No wonder some sets think I'm a total fucking bastard. I can be!

Maybe another part of this is that the chicks in my city, they don't have high esteem. They aren't like the fucking LA chicks. These girls feel like shit about themselves, even the fucking 9s and 10s have weak egos. You go up to a 10 here and say "Hey... I just noticed, your shoes really complement your figure." They will beam a fucking smile.

Anyway I've kind of lost my train a little here. My point is... I need more methology ! to ditch my ego, preferably from someone who knows about doing this (clearly not most gurus ). Giving value has always worked best for me. Even if a chick is side-turning me, I can "win" her in turning into me by demonstrating value. Back-turning her does jack all for me.

Suggestions?

Aside: Why did I write this? Because I realised I've been being a fucking prick to a section of girls in my social circle, and now they've all got together and it's started to cost me.

What happened after that?

My initial reaction was...

"Fuck them, completely. I'll ignore all the ones who are unresponsive."

Well that soon ended in almost all of them being unresponsive, and only one or two of them continuing to drop IOIs/engage me in conversation.

Now I could have carried on like that. No skin off my nose. I don't intend on fucking any of them, but this is a part of my social circle I can't "shed" just now, so actually I'm just creating a cack-load of social hate for no reason.

What did I do then?

Bit the bullet, ditched my ego, stopped "ignoring them all back...".

When into the group. Give value. Give more value. Got attention. Give more value. Give more value, got more attention.

It's not fixed yet, still work to do, but it's clear that giving value is the way to do it. Stories, jokes, laughs, etc. Even if I just hook a few for 70% attention, a few more hook after that. In a month I'll be the centre of the party where I should be - so long as my ego doesn't get in the way.

I guess I'm too much of a natural prick to benefit from deliberate badassness

Edit:

One thing that's already struck me as a potentially "interesting" experiment which may well put to rest this issue forever for me... a two week "nice guy" experiment, where I consciously say nice things, act nice, make an effort to raise people's emotional state even if they aren't giving anything back, and of course drop all back-turns, cutting negs, and other ego-type behaviour (ignoring instead of saying hey, etc).

Obviously not like a fucking pussy, I'm talking alpha nice. Will only cost me two weeks even to try... defo going to put that on the suggestions list.

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