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However, after years in this scene, my experience is that what men think is attractive to women isn't really what is attractive to them. They think differently than men, so what they value as attractive is quite different. This post will exaplain what I believe women find most attractive (in order) from field experience and massive observations.
1) Height
Height is the most important thing to women. If you are tall enough, you are automatically in the attractive category. The average man in the U.S. is about 5' 9" tall. Anyone who is 5' 10" or above is tall enough to be attractive to most women (whose U.S. average is about 5' 4"). A man who is 5' 8" (just below average) or 5' 9" will have some problems because they aren't tall, but they are tall enough that they can overcome this.
When we get to 5' 7" and below is when height becomes a negative factor. Every inch below that seems to be a greater disadvantage. I am 5' 6" (I measured myself a bunch of times after being called short so much) and it is a disadvantage. I can only imagine how much harder it is for someone shorter than me. I have been called short a lot, whereas I know lots of men who are my height who have not, with the reason being I actually approach women and they don't, so my sample size is bigger. Also seeing taller friends with worse game get women I was rejected by gives me a clearer perspective.
I have heard and seen short men being able to get women their height or shorter. However, it is not easy, but it can be done. Being short and getting a woman taller than you (if you are tall and she is taller, she is freakishly tall and will be willing to date a guy a few inches shorter) though is the essence of good game. I have only seen it happen a few times, but it is game played at its highest level.
Look around the next time you think you see a woman with an "ugly" guy and I bet he is actually taller than she is or the same height. He's actually attractive to women, just not to men, leading to the post about ugly guys are with hot women all the time. No, they are definitely not.
2) Style/Clothes
Dressing nicely is the second most important thing. Having a well put together look will make you look more attractive.
3) Hand size
This is something almost no guy can relate to so it never gets talked about. However, having small hands is a huge disadvantage. I am short, but my hands are even smaller. My fingers are the same size as a woman who is 5' 2". Obviously, the taller the woman is, the more of a difference there is.
I never really knew about this as important for attraction. Obviously women have told me I have small hands, but it didn't seem like a huge negative. Then, I joined this private message board where you pay X amount a month to become "elite." I'm not going to name the board because this is not a review and it is irrelevant. However, MASF is the best seduction board on the planet, for better or worse. There is nothing better out there.
Anyway, the 2nd month there was a trick for quick attraction on the CDs we were sent. Hold your hand up to hers and she will feel attraction because you as a man have bigger hands than she does and will make her feel small. Well, needless to say, I felt like shit after hearing that. It did illustrate the point about how attractive having bigger hands than the woman is (also illustrated that I'm an idiot for believing some tall guy had any advice that was worth me paying a monthly fee for).
It's something that almost all guys have so it is never discussed. But, if you don't have it, it becomes a huge disadvantage. It is also something you can't hide and will be brought up in conversation.
4) Being in great shape
If you go to the gym, and get in great shape, whether real muscular or lean and muscular, women will be attracted to you. It is animalistic, and they can't control it. In fact, the only success I have had with women making up for my lack of height and hand size has been because of my biceps. They made up for the height and distracted from the hand size.
Notice how low this is though. If you have the first 3 on my list, you can afford to be over weight and still be attractive. Women will call you "teddy bear" cute.
5) Status
Money is really irrelevant. It is more about social status. Women have a desire to be important and superior to other women. Thus, they want to be with guys who are desired by other women. This is social proof and anyone who has studied MM or read a JWS post knows this concept well. The reason it isn't higher is because if no one else is around, the other 4 things will be more important. Social status only works because women are shallow. If no other women are around, social status doesn't exist, so it will not give guys attraction. Unless they are famous guys because then women can use that status later.
6) Penis Size
More important in keeping a fuck buddy/gf than in gaining attraction initially because we wear clothes. Women use height and hand size to try to gauge penis size, which I can say is an inaccurate indicator. In fact, the 2 are not related at all.
Having a small penis size will hurt you (below 4 inches). But women are not smart and can't accurately measure anything. The vagina is only 5-6 inches deep on most women when aroused (but can be stretched). Thus, a 6 inch penis will seem HUGE. And a 6.5 inch penis, she will claim is a 7 or 8 incher. It happens all the time. So if you are average, you have enough to satisfy her.
7) Intelligence
Women claim it is important, but it is really the least important of the 7 factors. I was in law school, so I qualify as intelligent, and what women would always say to me when it came up was " big deal, doesn't mean you will graduate." Or they were indifferent. Women also think that guys who act like know-it-alls or are xtra cocky are intelligent. If you have spoken to these guys, you know within minutes they are not. If you have an advanced degree, you know what real intelligence is. Women don't.
Now, I graduated, but it is not something that leads to much attraction. It's a difference maker when comparing guys who are close to being equal to separate you from other guys. It's a factor but it's less important than the other 6 things.
Game: Those are the 7 factors than I have found to create attraction in women. The more of the 7 above that you have, the more attractive you will be. That's why tall guys can assume attraction; you ARE attractive. It doesn't mean she will sleep with you but you are attractive to her. You have number 1 and number 3 automatically. If you didn't get her then there was another reason besides your attractiveness.
Real game, from my experience, is having the least amount of things that women find attractive and still being able to sleep with her. That is the essence of great game. Everything else you see in this scene is attractive men sleeping with women and trying to pass it off as game to feed their ego or to try to sell you something.
Can great game make up for not being naturally good looking to women? Yes, I believe so. I have had GFs and I have had sex and some were very attractive. And remember, you can always become more attractive by improving numbers 2, 4, 5, 6, and 7.
My purpose for writing this post was just to share what I have learned about what women find attractive. You might disagree with some of my rankings. However, this has been my experience overwhelmingly, and I am not paying you $3,000 to hang out so you can try to change my mind. Maybe this will allow people to observe things from a different perspective and share whether in their experience I am right or wrong.
Note: one last note. Body language», voice tonality, age, big nose, big ears were not listed. That's because ears and nose will not really affect attraction. Age only hurts if you look old, not if you are old. Body language» and voice will only affect attraction negatively if they are bad; they give people like me a chance to get women because you hurt your own natural attractiveness.
As for dominance, kino, leadership, personality, those are all tools of Game. The things you do to make up for not being ideally attractive to women.
I often see posts where someone tells of a guy they saw who was "ugly" and despite this, was able to be with this beautiful woman. Therefore, looks don't matter.
