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Recent post by tov, March 20, 2010

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Original discussion thread: http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/fs?action=9&boardid=2&read=101637&fid=24&FirstTopic=30&LastTopic=59


This is probably going to be a pretty long FR. A lot has happened, and a lot has been learned and experienced, so we'll see how detailed I can be.

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Oh dear God, how I have so much to learn. It is funny how I go out, get some responses doing my normal thing, and then I get a big head. I have been in the Community for years now, have had many experiences that I have thought changed my reality. Last night was, by far and large, the most frame-shattering, reality busting, mind-blowing experiences I have had my whole life. It all began on Wednesday....


I get invited to what was supposed to be a bomb ass St. Patty's party here in town. I invite JohnnyC and Paladin, figured I would show them how Tov does work. Ya know, since I am this hot shot and shit...We all hang out, shoot the shit for a little bit, then go out in my town. The town is full of old folk. Apparently, no one told me that the university was having mid-terms this week. JohnnyC and Paladin, I am sorry for how archaic my town is. But now you see where I am coming from at least, right?

We don't really see any sets worth opening anywhere in town. The bars are filled with frat boys and 5's who think they are 9's. The bars here in town are filled with those. I am hoping the party will save face. It is a total sausage fest....Well fuck. We go back to the bars, I open a few sets, crash and burning horribly. I go in with horrid body language». JohnnyC pulls me to the side, gives me some pointers, and I immediately adjust. Open another set with the better body language» and it hooks. It's funny how little things like body language» on the opening can change how the whole set goes. The night goes to a dull roar and nothing more of notice happens.

Last night (Friday), me and Svelte decide to hit up JohnnyC and Paladin, see if they want to go out in their town, maybe they can show us small fish how it is in the ocean. It was the wisest decision of my life.

-Side Note-

-I have been following JohnnyC for a few years now on here, just looking up to his style, how he seems to have his shit down, etc. After meeting Paladin, I decide to look his stuff up too. I felt as if there was no way this guy is who he says he is. I mean, we all know for the most part, this Community if filled with validation-seeking chodes (myself included sometimes) that pat up their resumes with fluff and “delusions of grandeur.” So I was skeptical of both of these guys going into last night.-


Svelte and I go and pick up JohnnyC at his house, head over to Paladin's and the instant I walk into his place, I realize something. Both Paladin's and JohnnyC's places have one couch that has sitting room. I didn't quiet understand it at the time, but looking back, it makes perfect logistical sense. If you get a girl over, have nothing to do in the living room, then the bedroom is the only place for her to go. And why has it taken Tov this many years to realize this? The world may never know.

More bullshit ensues then we are off. These guys are not the weird, Mystery-esque, TD-esque that I had dreaded. These were two normal fuckers. Well, normal in Community standards. At the bar near downtown, we start talking, looking around, telling stories, having fun. The bar is different than what I am used to. A lot of really attractive girls. Svelte and I laugh because we know when we go back home, the girls back there aren't going to be as good looking as this, and we're becoming spoiled here. After what seems like seconds, I feel AA come over me. I haven't felt this at a bar in a long time. Usually I just go up and BAM I feel good. I am almost paralyzed by this fear. It is seriously crippling. Paladin sees this and does something that I can only thank him for.

Paladin:Come walk with me Tov.
Tov: (barely able to walk) Okay...
Paladin:I am going to push you into that set, and you are just going to talk. Have fun.
Tov:WHAT? -push- Hey ladies...opener ensues.


The set is talking, feeling me. I tell them that I am out of town, here just for the weekend, not sure where a good looking guy like me can go without being mauled by attractive women. Laughter, fun, my world is colorful again. A few guys come into the set. I put my arm around one of the girls and tell her to introduce me and not be rude. She says she doesn't know them. Sweet! I introduce myself and BAM, back into convo with the girls. I realize that I have nothing else to say, so I bounce, having them promise that they will take me out on the town for a night of fun.

It takes me a few more moments and pacing around the club to actually open another set. I open one, blow out, try to open one, get blown out before the opener. JohnnyC goes outside to talk to me and just eases my mind. He says it's all in my head and that it's all about how I perceive shit. So true. I tell him that I am going up to a set and using his Chubby Chaser opener. I only know the outline, but isn't that was an opener is all about? Just getting an outline of what to say? DAFS on it. It is PRICELESS!

I see a three-set in the back in a booth. I decide to try it.

Tov: Chubby-chaser opener.

Girls:astonished looks, laughter, then they start to talk

Tov: (I decide it's better to tell a little story about how I was called a chubby-chaser because I was attracted to a thick girl and not let me them tell their sides quiet yet.)

Girls:laughter, fun, asks if the girl is here

Tov:No, no no. This was back home. But here (sits next to target, HBNurse) how about you show me what you would consider a “chubby” girl.

Laughter, fun, pointing, us v. them mentality. I try to get the set to move to JohnnyC and Svelte as I know they can entertain the group (play Ranch for me...they know what I am talking about) while I iso HBNurse. It doesn't happen. Apparently I didn't have enough rapport with them or something. Will have to think about why they didn't bounce with me. Any ideas?

After opening a few more sets that just didn't really hook, I go outside to smoke. As I am walking back in, I see a two-set of these smoking hot blondes. I mean, holy dear shit god fuck, these girls were some of the hottest I have seen IRL. I am struck with AA once again. It's cool. I understand it now and can finally just use the chubby-chaser opener because, well, it worked to get my foot in the door before and at least I can say I didn't let my AA fuck me twice. As I turn around to walk to them, I see Paladin saw this set before I did and was already talking to them over his shoulder. I need to be more aware of things like this. He sits down in front of them confident BL, and is soon having them playing with his tie, touching him, running their reality. I am just amazed at how fluid this set goes. He isn't giving those supplicating eye movements that I see every other guy doing. You can tell that every thing he says is meant. Every move deliberate. Every action is done already knowing the outcome. This guy has it down. Mental note taken.

I walk back inside, bullshit with JohnnyC and Svelte for a second and see the first set with HBNurse stand close to us. I decide that since they aren't smoking outside, that this is a proximity IOI and that I need to take it. I grab JohnnyC and tell him to come with me for a second. Bam, back into the set, accomplishment intro (I think) and I am talking, having fun. He is jumping in at just the right moments, moving it along. I run a few things that I know are funny. I say something too soft for HBNurse to hear so she has to come next to me in order to hear me better. I turn my BL to face her in order to create a “bubble” around us. I think Cosy talks about this. Not for sure. I run dry and the set dies. All in good fun. Smiles from JohnnyC and some good pointers.

Inside, I see Paladin at the bar with an HB9, talking, having fun, but with these three orbiters around the girl. One of them actually gets the girls attention by tapping her on the shoulder. She starts to put her arm around the orbiter. Paladin spins her and pulls her closer. He even pulls the guy in to say something. I wish I could have be one of the orbiters just so I can have heard what the fuck he was saying. Every time the girl's attention moved, he spun, pulled in closer until they were kissing and the guys were just standing there. Total domination. Total control. Totally not giving a fuck.

I talk to Paladin about it, he tells me that two of the orbiters were just fucking over the other's chances of getting laid. Laughter, drinks, fun ensue. Something that I realized about this all was that PU should be fun. JohnnyC and Paladin were always having fun. Even when JohnnyC got blown out, he was still laughing, telling me how funny it was. How he was having FUN. As the night is drawing to an end, Paladin stops a girl, little short blonde chick, so basically my Kryptonite. He is talking for a second, gets her close, doesn't go for the kiss, then gets a group hug with me. I am sitting on a chair next to them. I stand up for the group hug, as I thought was normal. He looks at me, tells me to sit down, and I realize that this group hug wasn't just a 'group hug'. Paladin, you shrewd little man you. He pushes our heads together, says something that didn't even register, and pushes are faces together.

This is where you think I would be talking about my amazing make out with a short blonde chick that was 1mm from my lips. No. Tov was taken back by this all. I blew it. This was the easiest make-out I could have had and I was too green to take it. Oh well, can't be upset at anyone but myself. Paladin, thank you. Maybe next time I will realize what you are doing and actually just grab her head and kiss her.

They are closing the bar, we are talking, moving slowly out of it. On the way to Paladin's, Paladin shows me something that just crushed my reality. He doesn't give a fuck. Not in the I don't give a fuck but still seek validation. Nay my good sirs. He honestly doesn't give a fuck. He knows who he is and is more than willing to show that to anyone willing to listen. He walks with this confidence, talks with this swagger. And doesn't give a fuck what you think. And it shows in his approach and in his results. Something that has been said a lot on this forum and in this Community that never really hit home until last night was not seeking validation. Paladin doesn't seek validation.


So, how did I do? I opened. I isoed. I learned so fucking much just from watching JohnnyC and Paladin that it will take a week to fully understand it all. I know I am going to be calling them both with a lot of questions. I came back down to earth. I was a little fish in a fish bowl and Paladin and JohnnyC showed me the ocean. A lot more fish, and a lot more fun. I had more fun this week than I had in a few weeks. Not because of the results, but because of the experiences. Hopefully there will be more to come.

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