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Recent post by Technodrome, June 10, 2010

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Yesterday I was back in SF with my new Lair friends. I was intrigued when fellow PuA Lovehandle told me he'd give me some personal
coaching (given that he's very good and I'm still up and coming). The zone of attack: Union Square! Chaaaarge!

I arrived there after adventuring through what I can only describe as...a San Francisco traffic nightmare from HELL, I was able to find a fairly reasonably priced parking garage and get off to the square. I stopped several HB's on the street to ask directions, without it actually going anywhere. But I'm opening and getting warmed up. Several blocks later, I met up with the group.

The group was composed of PuA Lovehandle and PuA Sindo, two of the senior members of the lair. I'd never really met any other PuA's before, let alone actually sarged with them, so this is all a little surreal, but feels right at the same time.

Lovehandle told me about a set that he and Sindo tried to close, finding out that they were actually lesbians. I looked over casually to see the two HB's lip locking. 'Twas glorious. LH told me I should go open them for fun. I agreed, but Sindo thought they should be left alone and not heckled by us, and that's fine by me. The day progressed pretty well from that point. A dialogue followed that went something like this...

Lovehandle: "So Tech, ready to start approaching?"

Tech: "I'm ready and waiting."

Lovehandle: "Good...good. Let's see..."

Sindo: "There's a nice two set behind LH right now, sitting at that table."

Lovehandle: (takes a peek back) "That's perfect. One of them is from UCLA. Check out that bag."

Tech: (Glances at bag, taking special note of it)

Sindo: "Okay Tech. No pressure. You're just going in to get warmed up. If you pull, so be it. But don't worry about it too much. It's just your first set of the day."

Lovehandle: "Go up to them and say, "You go to UCLA? No way! That's awesome! "

Tech: "Okay."

Lovehandle: "And if they ask you if you go to UCLA say, "No. " Just sit down and start talking. Your goal is to just sit down and stay in set as long as possible."

Tech: (Nervously) "I think I've got it..."

Sindo: "Good man. "

Lovehandle: "Very good. Now, go."

And just like that, I was off. The most critical thing I learned about day game opening on Saturday was to OBEY THE THREE SECOND RULE. Or rather, turn your brain off. The three second rule is just a way to get to that desired state of brainlessness. I think that's a word...

It's actually very difficult for me to describe this state exactly. Before my 26 sets the other day, I was vaguely aware of this state. I'd gone into it at points before, but I never really knew how to access it. If anyone is into meditation, it's really like that. You shut your inner voice off, and you act on instinct. After doing all of those openings the other day, I can now FEEL a certain area IN MY BRAIN, and just turn it off for just long enough for me to approach. It's almost literally like pressing a button near the front of my brain...

I know that sounds fucking cryptic, but it's the best I can do at the moment to explain it.

So I approached the set. Two HB's in it...very cute, actually. I would say HB8's, but the system is so subjective. Easily HB8's in my eyes, at least.

Tech: "Oh my god, you go to UCLA??"

HB Blonde/Blue eyes Chick: "Oh, yeah!"

HB Brunette/Hazel Girl: ""

Tech: "That's AWESOME."

HB BBC: "You go to UCLA??"

Tech: "No. "

(Both girls giggle)

Tech: (sits down in open seat) "I'm actually
not really from around here. I'm just checking it out today, and I noticed you guys and you seem really cool so I decided to come and talk to you. My name's Tech."

HB BBC: "I'm HB BBC. "

HB BHG: "I'm HB BHG. "

Tech: "So, do you guys live around here?"


I started writing out the entire transcript of our conversation, but it was getting really tiring so I'm just going to summarize it.

I pretty much asked a lot of questions and stuff, and asked them to show me around some time. I must have lost it at some point, because HB BHG told me she didn't have a cell phone, and HB BBC told me she would honestly never answer if I called. She didn't say it in a mean or vindictive way, though.

Both girls seemed sweet and genuinely nice. All the same, after failing on the number close, I ejected with a "Well, it was great meeting you guys. "

I kind of walked off where the HBs couldn't see me. Sindo & Lovehandle soon approached me.

Sindo: (concerned look) "I have one question: Why did you eject?"

Lovehandle: "Yes...It seemed to be going very well."

This certainly confused me. From my perspective, I was really nervous while inset and they seemed to be shutting me out!

Tech: "Well...they didn't seem to be very receptive to me."

Sindo: "That's not what we saw."

Lovehandle: "They seemed extremely receptive."

Sindo: "Yes, they were smiling and giggling a LOT, and playing with their hair."

Lovehandle: "They didn't take their eyes off of you."

Tech: "Wow...really? Huh. I guess my spidey
senses are off when I'm nervous, heh. Still, I felt it went pretty well. On to the next one?"

Sindo: "How would you feel about going back in?"

My stomach dropped.

Tech: "Uh...going...back...in?"

Sindo: "Yes. I think you've still got this one."

Lovehandle: "I think he definitely still has a chance."

FUCK! It was hard enough willing myself into doing it the FIRST time! Now I have to do it a second time...with...the...same...SET!?

Tech: "Do I have to? Can't I just approach some new targets?"

Sindo's face took on a stern expression.

Sindo: "No. If you're feeling fear, you HAVE to go face it now."

Lovehandle: "Generally if you fear doing something, it's something that you need face. The fear won't go away until you own it."

My palms began to sweat. I started to let the awful realization sink in.

I was just about to go back into a set. During the day.

When I write about it here, I doesn't sound as scary. But I think the prospect of going back into that set was one of the scariest thoughts of my PuA career so far. But...what if I could actually DO IT? How fucking AMAZING would it feel for me to be able to say that I faced down something that I was more afraid of, in that moment, than anything else IN THE WORLD?

Fuck me. I'm...GOING...IN!!

Tech: "I'm not sure I can do this, guys..."

Lovehandle: "Here, this might help you out a bit. Come over here with me."

LH proceeded to lead me over to another area in the square. He told me to focus on my palms.

Lovehandle: "Just focus on your hands. Focus on the moment...be...in...the moment. There exists no past. No future. Don't think about what happens after this. It's not important. all that exists is right now.

Now, breath. Focus on your breath..."

I think that more than the exercise itself, Lovehandle's steely confidence made me feel at ease. He has the intense look of a PuA who's seen hundreds of sets, and he seems to give off an aura of calm strength. I felt relaxed. I was as ready as I suppose I ever would be.

Lovehandle: "Ready?"

Tech: "Yeah. Let's do it."

He told me to focus less on what I'm saying, and more on my body language» and speaking slowly. My vocal tonality. Apparently it's obvious that I'm uncomfortable inset due to my obvious body language» signaling. Even when I'm controlling it, it seems like I'm controlling it. And if they can pick up on it, women definitely could.

Sindo: "Just go in, and ask them how you did. Say, 'Hey guys. I just wanted to come over again and say that I was a bit nervous before. (to HB BBC) You look like an ex girlfriend that I had, and I honestly was a little nervous.' Tech, the goal of going in there now is to get feedback on how you came off."

Lovehandle: "Isn't that awesome? You don't have to worry at all. You're not trying to get anything from them. You can just relax and enjoy being inset because you don't need anything."

Tech: "Okay."

Lovehandle: "Ready?"

Tech: "Ready."

Lovehandle: "Oh yeah, and throw in a false time constraint."

We walked together a bit of the way there, and I approached the girls again. Here we go!

To save another long text log, I basically went up to them and delivered my line. They were very friendly and receptive again. I sat back down and chatted with them for a while, and it was actually much easier. They told me they could both speak french, so I asked them to speak for me. They were still pretty receptive for a while. HB BBC said that while I did seem a little nervous, there was nothing weird about the way I approached them and talked to them. She said that honestly she thought I had a lot of confidence to be able to come up to them.

Eventually, they started eye coding each other pretty heavily. Then they started speaking in french to each other. Then eye coding each other, with both eyes darting back to me, then more french. I picked up on the vibe and decided to eject.

Apparently the rest of the time we were in Union Square they were still watching me, according to Sindo & Lovehandle. So, I dunno what was up with that.

Soon after that, Sindo had to leave to get a haircut. So Lovehandle spent some dedicated time sending me into sets and then critiquing my approaches. I went into...I'd say...about, 3-5 sets before I approached one that actually hooked.

It was absolutely mind boggling, but Lovehandle's fixing of my bad body language» and voice speed literally made EVERY set from that point on at least POSITIVELY receptive to my approaches! It was such a seemingly small adjustment to the way that I usually move and speak, it was almost unbelievable.

Some other tips I was given that seemed to really help:

-Don't ask questions. Make statements based AROUND questions
-Control how fast you're speaking.
-Sexual eye contact is key.
-Relax into your own body.
-Pattern Interrupts
-Leaning back in-set when appropriate

He honestly gave me so much golden advice that I really couldn't summarize it all right here.

Anyway, the girl who finally hooked was a cute HB8 Korean girl. She was sitting on some stairs, reading a book and listening to her ipod. Lovehandle advised me to go up to her and tap her on the shoulder, talk to her for a minute and then act like I didn't realize she was on her ipod. This seemed to work as I went in. I just concentrated on relaxing and putting out a slowed down vocal speed, and it seemed to work like MAGIC.

I went with the same basic framework in every set. I'd mention that I wasn't from San Francisco, and this would prompt the girls to start telling me about it and everything there was to do there.

Since HB8 Korean was reading, I told her I was on my way to the nearby Borders and asked her if she could recommend a book to me. She kept giggling and saying she didn't know any and told me about how she was just freshly in this country and didn't know how to read much English. I told her something along the lines of being able to tutor her.

I told her that she needs to show me around the city. She kept giggling and staring me in the eyes and was very enthusiastic. It was ON. She gave me her number and it SEEMED like she wanted to kiss me.

I didn't go for it...but maybe I should have? I don't really know. All the same, I chatted with her a little while after that to try and avoid a flake (I didn't want to bounce after just getting the number), and then took off. Texted her 20 minutes later that it was fun meeting. She texted back agreeing. I haven't texted back since.

After this, Lovehandle wanted to go shirt shopping at a nearby mall. So off for some mall game we went! It was a RIDICULOUSLY fancy mall. The fanciest I've ever seen, I'd imagine.

We walked over to a Border's first. Lovehandle got some tea from their tea & coffee place, and I bought a cupcake shaped cookie. It had the most incredibly difficult to open food wrapper that I have EVER encountered. I seriously messed with that thing for 10 minutes straight.

In deeper through this vaunted Borders, Lovehandle spotted an HB9 blonde girl going through the book section. He quickly turned around to me, giving me that steely gaze once again.

Lovehandle: "I JUST saw your SOUL MATE, Tech."

Tech: (diligently attempting to pry off cookie wrapper) "Huh?"

Lovehandle: (grabs me by the shoulders) "Your soul mate! She's perfect. You want to come ALL OVER HER FACE."

Tech: "I do...? (glances over at her) I...DO!"

Lovehandle: "Good, good! Now, go!"

Tech: "Wait, wait. What should I say??"

Lovehandle: (strokes his chin for a moment in seemingly deep thought) "Say...."

Tech: "Say...?"

Lovehandle: "Hi. "

Tech: "Okay."

Lovehandle: "Then say, 'Do you like cupcakes?'"

Tech: (glances down at cupcake shaped cookie) "Well..."

Lovehandle: "I dunno. Say whatever, man! Just GO!"

Tech: (follows after HB9)

I came up behind her at a steady pace. Just as I was within 10 feet of her, she turned around facing me and tried to walk past me. My hand came out and planted down gently on her forearm.

Tech: "Hi. "

HB9: "...Hi... (blank stare. turns head back in the other direction and continues walking past me)"

Tech: (talking at her as she's attempting to go) "Do you like...cupcakes?" (holds up cookie)

HB9: "Uhm...I'm vegan."

Tech: (confused) "...There's no meat in this cookie."

HB9: (raises brow in half-insulted fashion, continues leaving)

Tech: "Wait! I need you to recommend a book to me!"

HB9: "Sorry! I uh...I...can't!!" (hurries pace)

Tech: (now half shouting across the bookstore) "What? You don't READ??"

She's going...going...! GONE!

Crash and buuuurn!

I walked over to nearby where Lovehandle was. He was currently attempting to PU a cute asian girl. Apparently we share the same addiction to asian chicks...Mehehe.

While I was waiting for him, I decide to try and look as inconspicuous as possible. What's something inconspicuous to read...?

It is around this time, I notice I'm in the gay erotica section of the bookstore.

Tech: (picks up a book off the shelf) "Huh. 'Three Hundred and Sixty-five ways to Love your man: A Manly Love Calender.'"

I didn't know there actually were 365 ways to love your man.

Thankfully, I noticed Lovehandle was leaving the asian HB and making his way back to me.

Lovehandle: "How'd it go?"

Tech: (breaks down the approach) "She said she was vegan when I offered her a COOKIE. Sheesh. Some girls lame excuses..."

Lovehandle: "...Vegans don't eat ANY animal products."

Tech: "...Oh."

Lovehandle: "Hahaha."

We made our way out of the jungle of Borders at long last, and came upon a (presumably) HB sitting alone with her back facing us in one of those places where you sit down in the mall.

Lovehandle: "Tech...go walk around and tell me if she's cute."

Tech: "Okay." (walks around the area and spies the HB's lovely features) DUDE. She's a BABE!"

Lovehandle: "Really? Okay, I'm going in." (walks over and sits down next to her, opening)

I watched him work his magic for a good minute or so. He seemed to eject abruptly and made his way back over to me.

Tech: "How'd it go?"

Lovehandle: "Dude...she was like...14."

Tech: "Oh. No shit?"

Lovehandle: "Did you not get a good look at her?"

Tech: "I would...totally hit that. Hit that, and then quickly quit that. "

We soon exited the mall, wandering along San Francisco's busy streets, still bustling with HB's around literally EVERY corner, EVERY few seconds! San Francisco is AMAZING.
Lovehandle decided that we should post up and start doing direct approaches right on the street.

So post we did.

The first girl I approached was an HB7-8, and she quickly blew me off.

Tech: (walks up, taps her on the arm as she's walking by) "Hi..."

HB: (continues trying to walk)

Tech: "My friend...thinks I'm crazy...but, I would kick myself if I didn't come up to you and tell you that...I think you are...amazingly...beautiful."

HB: (looks back for just a split second) "Thanks." (continues walking)

Man, Lovehandle was entirely right! Going direct makes you feel very, VERY confident. Irregardless of the outcome!

I'm starting to enjoy direct day game FAR more than I should. Anything this much fun just CAN'T possibly be good for me.

Lovehandle came up and gave me his expert advice on how I approached. But halfway through his breakdown of how everything went, an AMAZINGLY GORGEOUS HB walked by...I want to say she was a 10. I'm right on the verge of saying she was a 10.

She was...easily, EASILY the hottest girl I've ever approached, anyway.

I had to take my shot!

I walk up with the same approach, with a stone cold sexual gaze in my eyes and full of reckless confidence. I place my hand gently but firmly against her forearm and begin...

Tech: "Hi..."

She stops immediately, smiling wide.

HB10: "Hi. "

Tech: "You know what...my friend thinks...that I'm crazy. But...I would kick myself if I didn't come and tell you that... (pause pause pause) you are...amazingly...beautiful." (holds down stare with a wry half-smile)

HB10: "WOW. Oh...my...god!" (INTENSE DDB, HUUUGE SMILE)

Tech: "I just...have to know more about you."

My mind sort of blurs from this point on. I honestly couldn't believe she opened so receptively.

But, basically...we were talking. I tried to put to use everything I'd learned throughout the day. She was DDBing me with the most intense DDB I've EVER seen. She said that I had a really intense stare, and gave me her number pretty much off the bat.

Tech: "I bet...you're a student."

HB10: "WOW. How did you know?? "

Tech: "I just...get a feeling when I look at you..."

HB10: "Yeah, I go here...blah blah blah"

As she was giving me her number, this happened:

HB10: "Oh...I should probably tell you though...that I'm, I'm dating a guy right now..."

Tech: "That's cool."

HB10: "No, like. Just so you...knooow. Do you understand what I mean...? "

Tech: "I don't care. "

HB10: (Giggles)

I told her to show me around town soon, and she seemed very excited about it. I let her go on her way pretty soon after that.

Right near the end, it started to feel as though she was BEGINNING to lose a bit of interest. I think it's because I didn't qualify her or show any "true" interest in her...like, I didn't really find a way to genuinely connect with her.

All the same, she looked like she desperately wanted to kiss me as she was going. She even leaned in a bit as we hugged goodbye. I would've gone for it...but I've heard bad things about trying to kiss that early on. Was I in the wrong not to go for the kiss close on the spot? I'm pretty much dead sure she wanted it.

Guess I'm still a little shaken up from when HBHippie Chick from a while back blew me out of what was otherwise a very promising interaction, when I attempted to kiss her goodbye after number closing her at college. I'd love it if anyone has some insight into this...

Anyway, that was pretty much the last really promising interaction that I had. Pretty soon after that, Lovehandle and I went to meet up with Sindo, and we went out to try and hit a Salsa club to get some night game in. Unfortunately the club only did Salsa on weekends, so we were SoL. We decided to eat at an El Salvadorian restaurant and just called it a night after that.

I think I learned more from Lovehandle in one day than I've learned from being in the community for all the time I've been.

Then again, I've learned some pretty amazing stuff through the time I've been here. But still.

I had a blast, and couldn't recommend at least trying out a lair enough. I bow down.

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