[Pivot = a chick that you take to a bar to in order to pick up other chicks. Use chicks
who won't lay you but still want to see you, for this purpose. Basically, this works most
chicks will find you more attractive and jealous when you are already with a chick than
when are not. -- Maniac High (http://www.pickupguide.com)] >Hey, NYC, I was just wondering - how often when you spin this line do
>you suddenly get the chick changing her mind and deciding to get happy
>with you? ALL THE TIME :) it's not to the point of sex thought... it's kinda interesting. what I am really doing
is telling them the truth, that if they don't want to have sex with me then they are going
to be treated like one of the fellas. They will DEFINITELY be paying for their own shit
(if they had ANY inkling that I was going to pay for them when we go out) and I will be
looking at and trying to meet and make out with any chicks that I like while I am with
her. She will suddenly be my co-worker or cousin or whatever she has to be to get the
other girls comfortable with talking to me. what happens to them though is they LOSE their
GRIP on me (that they never had in the first place) they THINK that they are going to get
special treatment and attention from me because I WANT TO FUCK THEM. as soon as I remove
that from them, they realize who they really are... NOBODY! they immediately struggle
somehow to get their status back. either they keep complaining about it not being RIGHT
for me to talk to other women in front of them in which case I bring up all this sexual
shit that they JUST FIISHED SAYING they don't want with me OR they say something about I
meant not TODAY or some variation. they try to make it seem like if I can treat them like
women for a few dates that they will give it up. NOPE! not interested. if she can't be
into me NATURALLY and RIGHT NOW then she is LJBF and that's it (until she comes up with
some DRASTIC sexual move that puts her back in the running) if they survive that point and actually go out with me as a pivot... THE SPARKS FLY! as
soon as they see the smiles I get from RANDOM women passing by and they see the looks on
my face toward those women, they SUDDENLY don't want to play the game anymore. I suppose
it's that competitive-woman thing where they want the guy that the other chick has... but
she is already WITH ME AND GETTING JEALOUS! at some point she reconsiders OR acccepts her
role as a pivot. trust me. a girl that is not sexing you is MORE VALUABLE as a pivot than anything else.
you can take her out and get EASIER RESPONSES from other women ALL NIGHT! plus the other
women ASSUME that you are paying for her shit and treating her the way THEY want to be
treated. then they see you smiling at them and figure they may be able to snag you from
her. if she accepts her role, you can send her to the bar for drinks STRATEGICALLY near
women that you want to meet. let HER strike up a conversation and invite them over to the
table... money in ghe bank fellas. like I said, they don't HOP IN THE BED WITH ME as soon as I tell them what the deal is,
but you can tell that their need for attention and affection and to be desired kicks in
when you REMOVE all those things from your relationship. when she realizes that she will
get some conversation from you and invited to go out to WATCH YOU meet other chicks that
she KNOWS are going to sex you because she would herself if she wasn't bullshitting, she
kicks it into gear to get back the relationship she WANTED YOU for in the first place.
even if she only wanted to tease you every day and go to sleep ALONE knowing someone
wanted her that day, she can't do that as a "friend". she has to find a way to
get herself OUT OF LJBF to prove herself an attractive, seductive woman. that's her new
CHALLENGE! >How often do they tell you to fuck off (presumably lower than an
>average guy, given your obvious personal presence and looks)? it depends on her personality, and opportunities for hanging out. you can kinda tell
which way they are going to go. all I want is for them to be out of my way. if their
response to "hand over the sex" is "no way" and their response to
"in that case, I will treat you like one of the fellas" is "I want to be
treated like a DATE" I will explain to them that I only date women I am sexing... not
in so many words... then it is their decision. if they can't handle their new position, or
they are too PROUD to stand by while I meet other women... oh, I forgot to mention that I
let then know VERY CLEARLY that I spend the most time with my favorite girls, so they are
essentially witnessing THE END of their time with me as they watch me meet girls that are
OBVIOUSLY dying to get me home. there is no way that a "friend" that I hang out
with is going to get my time over a girl I am fucking AND can hang out with AND STILL meet
other chicks! if they do tell me to fuck off, I start the debate of "ok, fine... but I offered
you my time sexually, then I offered you my time non-sexually... you just turned down
both... WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU WANT TO MEET ME FOR?" that normally kicks off some
introspection... and sometimes a sly smile that gives their bullshit game away... then
it's KINO TIME! >How far into the conversation do you go before you make this clear to
>them? it all depends. the first thing I want to do is elicit their values. I need to know
what I am passing up before I do it. as soon as she doesn't meet the criteria of the level
of woman that I want to have sex with (past a one night stand) she's LJBF. I will
entertain any objections to us being just friends and after that, I will offer to her to
hang out with me even though we aren't going to be screwing... but here are the rules of
hanging out with me... | 
