mASF post by "jim dutton"
posted on: USENet: alt.seduction.fast newsgroup, June 6, 2002In article <3D0***E@sh***.net[ ? ]>,
Kthulah <kth***h@sh***.net[ ? ]> wrote:
>John Fereira wrote:
>>
>> GoddessBaybee <god***e@ya***.com[ ? ]> wrote in
>> news:aed***5@dr***.com[ ? ]:
>>
>> > In article <[email protected]>, John says...
>> >>
>> >>GoddessBaybee <god***e@ya***.com[ ? ]> wrote in
>> >>news:ae8***b@dr***.com[ ? ]:
>> >>
>> >>> In article <[email protected]>, jjd***d@en***.com[ ? ] says...
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> T. Goddessbabe aka Brittany Spears is a bartender that prick teases
>> >>>> married men for tips. It's how she makes her living. She has to look
>> >>>> for someone to look down on in order to feel shes not the bottom of
>> >>>> societys barrel. Those women from other country sites are the
>> >>>> equivalent of americas match.com only the women are on average far
>> >>>> more educated. Unlike Goddessbabe.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Babe when you shag my next beer shake your ass and I'll consider
>> >>>> flippin ya a qwuata.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> She's also getting sport humped by a canadian for gods sake.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -Jeem, HTH
>> >>..
>> >>>
>> > <snip>
>> >>> He then claimed I am uneducated, but he doesn't know the first thing
>> >>> about my educational status.
>> >>
>> >>He probably knows about as much about your educational status as you
>> >>know about his wife.
>> >
>> > <boggle>
>> > hey john,
>> > i've said straight out that i dont know the specifics of
>> > ol' jeembo and the missus's relationship.
>> >
>> > In article <a6q***s@dr***.com[ ? ]>,
>> > GoddessBaybee <god***e@ya***.com[ ? ]> wrote:
>> > "I don't know (and I don't care) if your wife is
>> > in fact a mail-order bride. If you are sensitive about people taunting
>> > you about the "mail-order-bride" issue, then maybe you shouldn't run
>> > around mouthing-off and taunting others regarding their
>> > relationships...."
>>
>> I don't think that paragragh comes across as impartial as you're now trying
>> to come off. Let's change a few words and see if this looks to you like
>> something that was written by someone impartial and non-judgemental.
>>
>> > "I don't know (and I don't care) if you are
>> > in fact a lesbian. If you are sensitive about people taunting
>> > you about the "gay" issue, then maybe you shouldn't run
>> > around mouthing-off and taunting others regarding their
>> > relationships...."
>> >
>> >>While I haven't actually met the lovely Mrs. Dutton myself I know quite
>> >>a few people whose opinions I trust that have. From all reports she's
>> >>very charming, quite gorgeous, quite educated, and comes from a *very*
>> >>wealthy family.
>> >
>> > <doubleboggle>
>> > ...even if Mrs. D. is in fact a "mail order bride"
>> > i dont think that would imply that Mrs. D. aint a charming, gorgeous
>> > and educated woman. I personally wouldn't suggest that she isn't.
>>
>> ...even if you are a lesbian I think that I would imply that you might not
>> be attractive an intelligent.
>>
>> You're essentially strongly implying that she is a mail order bride (she
>> isn't) without categorically stating that she is. A semantantical
>> difference, maybe, but from where I'm sitting the intent seems to be the
>> same.
>>
>> >
>> >>The other stereotype which you eluded to was the implication that if
>> >>someone Marries a woman from a poorer country, he is doing so out of
>> >>desparation because he is unable to attract a quality woman from this
>> >>country. As I have seen with my own eyes the kind of woman he's
>> >>managed to attract long before he met his wife, I know for a fact that
>> >>Jeem doesn't have that problem.
>> >
>> > hey john, I've read more than a couple of your articles,
>> > and you seem fairly level headed to me...so i want to ask you a couple
>> > o' questions (i dont really care if you answer 'em publicly or not)
>> > i guess i just want you to think about 'em.
>>
>> Ok, shoot.
>>
>> >
>> > first, jim dutton wrote regarding the women on the
>> > "russian women catalog"* sites
>> >
>> > "Those women from other country sites are the equivalent of
>> > americas match.com only the women are on average far more educated."
>> >
>> > from your perspective, do you think that's a true statement?
>>
>> From my perspective, I really don't have enough information to go on. I've
>> never looked at match.com or a russian women catalog so my perspective on
>> the educational status from either forum would by entirely based on
>> hearsay. Just as a general impression though, when personal ads have been
>> posted in newsgroups that I read from Russian woman I have noticed a
>> general tendency of claims which indicate a high level of education whereas
>> when I've seen personal ads posted by American woman, typically educational
>> status isn't even mentioned. The only conclusion that I can draw from that
>> is that perhaps Russian women feel that their educational status is a more
>> important criteria for "selling themselves" as a potential mate than
>> American women seem to rate it.
>> >
>> > specifically, do ya think russian women tend to be better educated than
>> > their american counterparts?
>>
>> Again, I really don't have enough evidence to make such a determination.
>> Just out of curiosity, why is this important to you? Frankly, the level of
>> formal education isn't an important criteria to me. I've been in long term
>> relationships with women with little formal education and am married to a
>> woman that holds a PhD in clinical psychology.
>>
>> > even if you agree with that part, do you think that's the *ONLY*
>> > significant difference?
>>
>> No, I don't, but that perspective is likely based mostly on stereotypes.
>> That's primarily based on the criteria upon which the users of those system
>> use for selecting a mate. My general sense is that the most important
>> criteria for women posting their profiles on the mail order bride site is
>> that the person they are looking for is living in the U.S.. However women
>> seeking men on U.S. based sites typically want someone in close proximity,
>> but criteria such as physical appearance, age, financial responsibility
>> (which I don't necessarily conclude as meaning "filthy rich"), basic
>> philosophies about family or religion, and general personality traits (must
>> have a good sense of humor), all seem to play a more important role.
>> Again, that's must my general sense.
>>
>> >
>> > * btw, i'm not trying to be derogatory by calling it a "russian women
>> > catalog"
>> > That is actually what the site we were discussing calls itself.
>> > "http://www.russian-women-catalog.com/"
>> > other sites mentioned in this thread are called
>> > "http://www.bridesbymail.com/"
>> > "http://www.mailorderbrides.com/"
>> >
>> > Dutton initiated this episode of our lil flame war because I said
>> > (regarding the mail-order-bride sites) that those women were hoping to
>> > re-locate from a poorer nation to a wealthier nation via marriage.
>> >
>> > I don't think that's a controversial statement.
>>
>> I don't think it is either...when taken out of context. When put into the
>> context of round one of your lil flame war, and the implication that his
>> wife is a mail order bride, I'm not surprised that he responded. What I
>> *have* noticed is that after round one of your lil flame war, you both went
>> back to your corners for awhile but you've both been poking at each other.
>> I know that Jeem has never been hesitant to partake in a bit of virtual
>> fist-i-cuffs and from the looks of it, you don't seem to be crying uncle
>> too quickly either.
>>
>> >
>> > The next question, i want to ask you is...
>> > ..can you honestly say the comments i've made about jeem and his family
>> > are worse than the comments jeem's made about me and my family?
>> >
>> > how about the comments 'ol jeembo makes regularly regarding countless
>> > other posters and their families?
>> >
>> Jeem makes a lot of "yo momma" cracks.
>
>
>I would like to nominate the above sentence for soc.singles-sycophant
>understatement of the year.
>
>
>> That's hardly news. If he didn't
>> get a reaction from them I doubt that he would continue to do it.
>
>
>That has not been my observation.
>
>
>> From the
>> perspective that I have actually met Jeem on several occasions as well as
>> at least part of his family, I can see any comments made about him and his
>> family in a different context. You would really have to experience Jeem in
>> real life, hear his voice, and see how he interacts with other people to
>> understand.
>
>
>What part of Jeem is it that we (as in the people he has chosen to
>continually shame himself over online) are we not seeing?
>
>Are you calling him a liar, who is purposefully deceiving people about
>his thoughts of them?
Bowlingball head is still fuming I pointed out what an obese skank she
is. Her "i can win a beauty pageant in two weeks" was the most deluded
thing I have ever read on usenet.
The second was how her leatherclad posse packing heat would teach me a lesson
-Jeem, It's good to know she obsesses about me. Hey ma I'm doing ok!!
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