mASF post by "SuperBobo"
posted on: USENet: alt.seduction.fast newsgroup, October 10, 2001Wow it sounds like Mystery's seminar changed Mystery as much as it
changed anybody else!
Weird!
BOBO
"Mystery" <mag***n@ho***.com[ ? ]> wrote in message news:<51eD7.6169$Fy2***0@ne***.com[ ? ]>...
> Thoughts first on SEX MAGIC ...
>
> Any routine that conveys a sense of mystery and power within an artform is
> SEX MAGIC. This includes mind-reading, esp demonstrations, moving things,
> spell-craft, runecasting, astrology readings, psychic readings
> (cold-readings), graphology (handwriting analysis), tarot reading,
> phrenology, palm-reading, mnemonics (photographic memory demonstrations) as
> well as any conversational thread whose topic includes magic, the occult,
> the unknown, witchcraft and new age ideas including spirituality and angels.
> Im not talking about card and coin tricks here although I guess in the right
> place, vanishing a coin could be sex magic ... I mean, if it ultimately
> helps you to perform THE GREAT RITE (sex).
>
> we need a BASIS ... a FRAMEWORK to work from when conveying our personality.
> When you wlak up to a group and talk to them, like it or not, you are
> perfoming SOMETHING. These THINGS are routines. You are talking about
> SOMETHING. You are leading the groups imagination ... You certainly should
> not be talking about the OBVIOUS like this: "Hi, I saw you and I noticed you
> had nice tits. I was hoping to fuck you later tonight." So you need routines
> that convey your personality ... as if the routines were VEHICLES to drive
> your personality (demonstrate specific characteristics of yourself) to the
> target.
>
> POWERS OF SEDUCTION
>
> There are TWO conversational topics that women respond very well to: talk
> about social dynamics ... and the unknown. If you are talking about the
> unknown, like ESP ... you will fair much better if you could actually read
> her mind ... in a practical demonstration. If you were talking about ghosts,
> you would fair better if you had a photo of one on you.
>
> SEX MAGIC WORKSHOP
>
> My MM workshop in LA kicked ass. I've decided to teach several practical
> ways to demonstrate mind-power by teaching runecasting, mind-reading and
> other impressive sex magic demonstrations within my workshop ... My MM
> workshop is now called a sex magic workshop. same thing, but add learning
> some specific sex magic routines to boot (they have been requested by all
> who ever meet me in person as they seriously put women under your spell).
> afterall, some of you need SOMETHING with which to convey your charming
> persona. If you are going in without an edge ... like some may say, "hi Im
> an accountant", you will not capture your target's attention and lead her to
> become curious of you. you do NOT have to be what you do for a living. you
> can remain mysterious ... and convey that you know more about the world than
> the average man ... and to do this I recommend you do it with sex magic.
>
> Odious ... you agree with this? I mean, you come off mysterious. I know SIN
> does. People who talk about NLP do too. Your conversational threads deal
> with either social dynamics or the unknown (like mind powers, NLP, wicca,
> etc) right? (what other threads do you find yourself yakking about that make
> a woman respond to stay with you, cock her head and really listen to what
> you have to say? for me? sex magic, social dynamics and adventure stories
> (anecdotes).
>
> Of course if you do NOT want to demonstrate sex magic, there are still MANY
> conversational topics that revolve around the unknown ... like for instance
> ... the opener, "do you think spells work?" this is an awesome opener
> because it gets the entire group involved in the debate. this alone is great
> but ... imagine if after the debate, you then prove your authority on the
> subject by casting an entertaining spell (and yes, even that boring
> ACCOUNTANT can appear different and 'enlightened' by doing this), waiting
> for a sign to see if the spell worked ... and SEEING the sign??!!! The
> conversation ALONE falls under sex magic ... but add in a spell (of
> charming) and it's definitive sign that the spell worked (like asking your
> target to pick one of 5 bottle caps on the table and if she chooses the only
> one marked on the underside with a star, then this is proof that the spell
> worked) then you can pack a considerable punch to your sex magic
> demonstrations.
>
> "I practice sex magic." - say THAT! see if THAT doesnt generate CURIOUSITY
> in your next target. "Maybe I'll teach you a thing or two."
>
> To think, maybe you know something she DOESN"T about sex. Hmmmm! :)
>
> TOP GUN METAPHORS ARE OVER ... CHANGES PREDICTED
>
> I've given this much thought lately. The TOP GUN metaphors that I've been
> using online are metaphors that I ONLY use online. Words are tools and our
> acronyms and jargon were helpful to use here ... like TARGET, WINGMAN and
> EJECT. All words from the movie TOP GUN ... but they are limiting in ways
> that cannot be denied.
>
> SIDENOTE: I STRONGLY suggest you watch that movie (TOP GUN) again ... you
> will see MANY instances of OUR TALK in it. You will laugh and laugh ... to
> finally understand just how much that movie influenced our thinking ...
> because I used words that came from that movie.
>
> Words are tools. They help us because they are often CONCISE ... and online
> TERSENESS is a virtue (especially if you peck the keyboard with 2 fingers).
> However, words can also limit our way of thinking, sometimes DRAMATICALLY.
>
> The metaphors we use sculpt our thinking. It's time for us to discard the
> old TOP GUN metaphor (at least for me). I prefer the SEX MAGIC metaphor for
> a # of reasons. WHY? for one, its MYSTERIOUS. The more we TALK this way, the
> more we are likely to convey a sense of mystery. It's softer, less
> offensive. No "OBSTACLES to DISARM" ... instead, we "BEFRIEND the
> PEERGROUP." I don't actually THINK the way I come off in my posts. My posts
> were directed towards PUAs ... so the benefit of TOP GUN metaphors were
> this: they were fun, they were efficient (less wordy ... UG was used instead
> of "nice girl whom Im not sexually compatible with") and they were
> empowering ... "select your TARGET and ENGAGE in chat." I have been limited
> by the top gun metaphor of late and wish to remedy this ... here are some
> limitations: I dont actually talk this way (Im more sex magic oriented in
> real life ... "I put women under my spell", I don't "pick em up."), it's
> offensive to women, it isn't congruent with the person I project in
> real-life (a man of mystery ... not a man of analytical manipulation, not a
> war leader who sets OBJECTIVES to WIN), and quite frankly, Im bored with it.
>
> What Im suggesting is this (oh and if you don't enjoy the challenge of
> changing the metaphor, I'm doing it ANYWAYS so to continue understanding me,
> you'll have to keep up) ... we completely change the METAPHOR, the CULTURE
> of the NG ... from the old out of date TOP GUN thing (movies old now) to the
> NEW AGE craziness of SEX MAGIC. We arent PUAs who PICK GIRLS UP (remember,
> nobody wants to be known as a PUA, especially by girls) ... we are men of
> mystery who practice sex magic. we put women under our spell. we have
> extraordinary powers of seduction. ALL TRUE ... and all the same as
> yesterday, and yet ... MYSTERIOUS. Something we can SAY to others. THIS is
> where 'I' am personally coming from. Im not defined within the old TOP GUN
> view. But ... I am well defined within my MYSTERY metaphor. Within that of
> SEX MAGIC.
>
> Want to know another reason why TOP GUN sucks? Maybe this has happened to
> you: you were driving downtown with your wingman (see? we need to change
> these words - if I called my buddy a wingman in front of a girl, I'd get
> questioned in a not so good way) and you were talking about the PUA (Im not
> a PUA ... Im a man of mystery!!!!) ... only because you used top gun
> metaphor, by the time you got into the field (we need to change THAT word
> too - to the CEREMONY ... nightclubs are ceremonies ... rituals of mating
> and celebration), all that was on your mind is TOP GUN talk. You had nothing
> else to talk about. you weere TALKATIVE yes, but about the wrong subject
> matter. You meet girls and you cant come off MYSTERIOUS because you are
> still in TOP GUN mode ... too analytical. There comes a time, right before
> you walk through the doors to the club, that you have to shed all your
> THOUGHTS and trust that your INTERNALIZED behaviors will work their magic
> for you in there. You have to shed that TOP GUN TALK and put on the robe of
> MYSTERY.
>
> With this said, it's high time we changed the LOOK and FEEL of the PUA. We
> need to make it MYSTERIOUS ... MAGICAL sounding. Like a PRIVATE COMMUNITY of
> mysterious and powerful people.
> no more DISARM ... BEFRIEND.
> no more OBSTACLES ... PEERS.
> no more talk of UGs ... they are FRIENDS.
> no more EJECT ... we VANISH.
>
> our acronyms are quite cryptic and thats good but ... some of them, when
> spelled out, are quite offensive ... and while having jargon in our
> community pulls us together (jargon builds bonding solidarity), it also
> confuses NEWBIES. something we MAY want to work out ... either our
> MYSTERIOUS talk is so cryptic that it needs a CYPHER (this is good as our
> posts would be meaningless to those who don't understand our WAYS) or we
> DEMYSTIFY our acronyms ... remove the
> BITCH SHIELD? no. PROTECTION SHIELD.
> COCK BLOCKER? no. GREMLIN.
> LOSER? no. RAY. :P
>
> I imagine a day when a woman accidentally stumbles into this community and
> either is MYSTIFIED (no cypher to understand the MEANING behind certain
> ideas) or reads it without getting OFFENDED. We aren't PICKUP ARTISTSwe
> PRACTICE SEX MAGIC. We are MEN OF MYSTERY.
>
> You would never say nigger to a black man (unless you were black and he were
> your good bud) ... why would you call women BITCHES. If we can clean up our
> LOCKER ROOM TALK, we could LEGITIMIZE our research in SOCIAL DYNAMICS.
> That's what group theory is all about for instance.
>
> Any of the big boy's (Ross, Rick, Odious, etc) ALL use "sex magic" ...
> artistic routines that convey personality while also conveying a sense of
> mystery and power. Ross talks about powers of the mind, so does Odious and
> so do I. Rick talks about senuality and social dynamics (his lesbian stuff
> is killer!). Im sure they ALL use graphology, palm reading, NLP (the
> scientific offshoot of spellcasting) and cold-reading (psychic) ploys. It's
> the ol' "look into my eyes" stuff that works great! If you arent using tarot
> or runecasting to build rapport with your target, you are probably NOT
> getting laid regularly. (prove me wrong so I can modify my viewpoint).
>
> TARGET? no. DESIRE or PM (potential mate)
> NEWBIE? no. APPRENTICE.
> WINGMAN? no. ???
> CLOSE? no. DRAW. (I like this change!!! Think about it).
> SARGING? no. old. and it is connected to SS ... to use PATTERNS on women. I
> don't go SARGING ... I ... PRACTICE.
>
> I prefer PRACTICE ... it conveys TWO central themes: 1) like the PRACTICE of
> magic (mysterious) ... and to PRACTICE your art or your skills. I personally
> think of going out and meeting women as PRACTICE. PRACTICE for a time when
> the right one comes along. The 'field' is a HOLODECK to me and we play a
> GAME where we PRACTICE our seduction skills. In fact, sometimes I would say
> to people, "Im going to practice. See ya." What does that mean? It means Im
> going out!!!
>
> Im sure you guys are far more creative collectively than my one brain so
> I'll leave it at that for now. We need MYSTERIOUS and MAGICAL terms for the
> cheap TOP GUN ones I CREATED years back. Look though the archives and see
> which terms I popularized ... then offer some alternatives ... ones that
> EMPOWER us. Then ... the words that ARENT MINE ... change them too. It's
> time.
>
> ok, one more: no more 3s RULE ... it's too close to the magician's RULE OF
> THREE: "Thrice Spoken, Once Fulfilled." Also, people have completely taken
> the 3s out of context repeatedly. It's actually an INSTANT approach. The
> only reason I said 3s instead of 1s is because of DISTORTION FACTOR ... when
> a 9 becomes a 6 because she was too far away to see clearly. seriously haa.
>
> The 3S is changed to ... APPEAR. When you see a girl you DESIRE, APPEAR! See
> how THAT concept changes your understanding of things!
>
> these are not written in stone. they are open to REINTERPRETATION ... and
> please, only those who have FIELD EXPERIENCE are invited to comment.
>
> Mystery
> (Conducting a SEX MAGIC MM WORKSHOP in YOUR city!)
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