mASF post by "TheShangriLa"
posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, July 7, 2005This is something I've been thinking about for quite a while now. My ideas have
formed from a variety of sources - from my own life and recent experience to
mASF posts and things discussed at the recent LSS (http://www.thelss.com)
summer seminar.
I'm putting it "out there" because I think it's important to a great deal of
guys on the list who may have similar experiences but can’t quite put their
finger on it.
Feedback and discussion appreciated.
MELT - Mentally Exhausting Logical Tasks
Do you perform Mentally Exhausting Logical Tasks (MELTs) as part of your job?
Does this type of work change your personality and sociability?
I work in IT. I'm a developer. The work requires VERY high levels of
concentration, the ability to think highly logically and attention to detail.
Even one semi-colon out of place and nothing works. Being a bit of a
perfectionist in this career helps. You have to keep weeding out the bugs until
everything is PERFECT. There is no room for failure, as the software won't work
or the bridge will collapse and people will die.
This is quite a good checklist I found on the web for a person who pays
"attention to detail".
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Key Behaviors:
- Keeps a project checklist, covering all the details that might be overlooked.
- Checks, and rechecks work for mistakes before sending out.
- Follows procedures exactly to make sure all parts of a job are completed.
- Compares finished work to what is expected.
- Performs routine or repetitious tasks with care and attention.
- Reviews work carefully for completeness and accuracy.
- Makes sure equipment is working before it is needed in a project.
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Ring any bells for anyone?
Sometimes when I'm working really really hard (like I have been for the past
couple of weeks), words can be very hard to say. Like I was in HUGE deep
concentration the other day and someone asked me if I wanted a cup of tea and
it took a great effort for me to blurt out the words "No, I'm fine thanks". And
when I finish my days work, I am so mentally exhausted that I cannot make
conversation and my creativity level is on the floor. Those sort of days make
me "regress" to AFC mode, where I can only THINK about opening girls and not
actually do it. It's days like that when I get into "interview" mode on a date
and ask a stream of questions (which is of course the logical thing to do if
you want information from someone, but as we all know is the unattractive thing
to do and chicks hate it).
You may well ask how does this relate to seduction and pickup? Well, anyone
familiar with basic PU theory will know that engaging a woman's emotions is one
of the most important things in seduction. As Tyler Durden has often commented,
"logic is the attraction killer". Women will try to break their own state of
attraction using "logic" (i.e. shit-tests), e.g. "Do you think I'm a slut and
going to sleep with you on a first date?". And as anyone who's been in the
situation will know, offering a logical answer to a shit-test usually makes
women even more angry and less attracted to you. When you get logically
argumentative (i.e. "How can you possibly conclude that I think you are a slut
just because I wanted you to come back to my place for dinner?" etc), it's
probably not gonna be long before she decides she will never ever sleep with
you.
That's why PUA's like Tyler Durden (see his take on shit-tests here
http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?
action=retrieve&grp=5&mn=104141726052964) respond by ignoring/ridiculing/etc
the shit-test and playing on her emotions instead, which serves to deepen the
attraction rather than break it.
So in PU logic and emotions don’t mesh too well. It’s kind of like this:
IT geeks are (and have to be) highly logical.
Chicks - hate logic.
Therefore chicks hate IT geeks . (I bet you didn't realise there was a
mathematical equation for it ;))
(Note: I say IT geeks, it could just as well be engineers or any other
technical/logical career).
This leads to the question that has really been on my mind recently:
Is it
- the type of PERSON who is attracted to this type of high logic career that is
naturally unattractive to women
OR
- the logical WORK ITSELF (and the mindset that comes along with doing that
sort of work (see those Key Behaviors above)) that MAKES a normal guy into
someone who is unattractive to women?
So what I'm trying to figure out is by doing a job where you perform Mentally
Exhausting Logical Tasks (MELTs) all day long, are you conditioning yourself to
be less attractive to women? Less sociable? Are you conditioning yourself to be
too "in your own head" and not out in the real world?
Guys, I'd like to hear your thoughts.
Thanks,
The Shangri La
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