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Just stopped by, and thought I could post something. I don't have time to get
into all that stuff Jlaix was on about (too long), but here's some other stuff
I've been up to lately that I thought was pretty funny.
I learned most of this stuff in Europe, while trying to steal sets from guys and
preventing them from stealing sets from me. The guys here are not pushovers like
most guys I meet in North America. Many have game.
This is field tested probably hundreds of times.
AMOG: How do you guys know eachother?
PUA: Her? I fucked her.
(Girl will go "aaaaaaaaah... hahahahah, I did NOT!!! But she'll hit you and be
giggling and start crawling all over you...).
AMOG: Hey, this is a nice girl.
PUA: Her.. she's a slut..
(Again, girl will start going "nooooo!" while giggling her ass off and crawling
on you.. this is very deflating to the guy trying to cut in)
NOTE: Trying the above 2 was actually kinda weird for me. I was like "fuck, I
can't say this". But I'd seen the European naturals use it on me a few times, so
I thought "fuck it, I'll use it". I use it all the time now, including just
bringing it up like "actually guys, you know her and I know eachother.. know
how? I fucked her.." The girls freak out and giggle and grab you and get hyper.
The key though is that you have to do it when they're already at high buying
temperature. Like similar to CraigSD220's C&F Accentuators. You do it to add
punch to something else that already got them laughing.
AMOG: Hey girls whats up (or whatever)
PUA: Hey dude dude (putting hands up like you give up).. I will pay you a
HUNDRED dollars right now, to take these girls away from me.
(Girls will go "no no no... we love you PUA.. noooooo" and giggle and crawl on
you.. Again, immediately deflating to the guy)
AMOG: Hey girls what's up (or whatever)
PUA: Dude, OMG that shirt is AWESOME.. I had one just like it in highschool, it
fucking rocks man.. Having a good time in London man.. It's awesome huh? Dude
you're like the coolest guy I met all night.. (patting him on the shoulder)..
AMOG: (showing signs that he wants to fight)
PUA: hahah, dude, are you like trying to pick a fight with me? hahahha.. ok ok
hold up hold up.. wait a sec, we'll do even better.. first... we'll have an
armwrestling competition.. then second.. we'll do one armed pushups.. and
last..... POSE-DOWN!!
(then you start flexing and go "ladies?", and they start saying how you're so
strong, and the AMOG looks like a tool.. you're tooling him, by making him seem
like he's trying too hard to impress the girls by showing them superiority).
AMOG: Hey man.. keep talking.. no no, let's hear your pitch man.. pick these
girls up man, you're doing awesome.
PUA: Hey, you know I've gotta try to impress you COOL (x-city, x-dressed, x-whateverquality)
guys.. You guys fucking ROCK.
(cut him down on whatever limited amount of knowledge you have of him, even if
its not relevant whatsoever, he'll feel uncomfortable and his bodylanguage will
show it)
AMOG: (starts touching you to show dominance)
PUA: hahhaha, DUUUUDE, I'm not into guys man... dude, there's club-gay-whatever
over there man.. hands off the merchandise buddy
(girls laugh at him, then he starts qualifying himself to you that he's not gay)
AMOG: (gets in your face)
PUA: (don't answer.. just SIT there quiet.. the more he says stuff to you, the
more he's TRYING.. talking too long without an answer is QUALIFYING yourself..
so if he keeps trying to out-alpha you, and you don't answer, eventually he
looks beta because he tried too hard to get your attention.. another trick is to
make "let's get out of here" girlcode with your eyes to the girls (mimmick what
they do to eachother when you do a bad set), and they'll leave with you)
AMOG: (gets in your face)
PUA: dude, you're an alphamale..
AMOG: what's that..
PUA: you know, like the leader of the pack.. you call the shots.. you can put
your hands on guys you don't know, cause you're alpha..
(fucks up his whole 'look cool' game, because you've characterized all his
manneurisms, so anything he does to look alpha makes him appear to be qualifying
himself too you.. if he continues, just say "see... alphamale.. whoa tiger, I
can't mess")
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Also more tactics..
Once you get the guy to qualify himself to you in any way (like he tries to make
friends), rather than being nice, IMMEDIATELY cut him out of the circle. Just
cut him out. You'll notice trying to SHUT YOUR GAME DOWN by bombarding you with
logical questions. They'll start pummeling you with logical stuff, so that you
have to answer him the girls fall out of state. For me I found the solution was
just to say "hey man, don't get all scientific on me.. we're here to have fun.."
and then immediately start gaming the girls again. btw, if I'm out with any of
my GFs at a club, and another guy hits on them, I use the same tactics on AMOGS
to stop them.
When you cut him out of the circle, he'll either leave (too deflated), or he'll
try to grab your shoulder and say something like "don't turn your back on me".
From there, the girls think he's creepy, so you say "hey guys, this dude is
creepy.. are you friends with this guy?? did YOU bring this guy here?" The girls
will say "no no no, we don't know him", and you say "OK, let's get out of here",
and put out your arms for them to grab.
Then walk away with the girls on your arms, and if you want (I do this alot)
turn around and have them both kiss you on the cheek and wave the AMOG goodbye.
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Also, you can USE the AMOG's WORK for yourself. Like he lines 'em up, you knock
'em down.
This is something I do alot. I let a guy pick a girl up and increase her buying
temperature, then I go in and outalpha him, say he's creepy to the girls, and
then remove them from him.
The girls are already aroused, so they are still in state based on what the AMOG
did. I can do this like maybe on 90% of sets I approach where a natural AMOG has
gotten far with a girl. I think a dude I know "Stephane" recently posted about
this on Cliff's List regarding a sarge we did.
Basically, I just make the friends of the girl who is getting gamed on by the
AMOG like me. Like, they want me, but they know they're not qualified but their
friend is.
Then I say "Hey I want to meet your friend so much, but that touchy grabby lean
in guy is all over her.. is she just being nice, or does she really like guys
who lean in and touch and do all the 'whats your name' fake ungenuine stuff?"
The UGs are invariably like "no no, we hate guys like that.. that's why we love
you so much blah blah", and then you get the FRIENDS to literally REMOVE the
hottie that you want from the AMOG who is conveniently heating her up for you
and saving you the hassle.
Have fun.
-TD
PS: I just read Style's recent post on Cliff's List about rapid fire value
conveyers or something like that. I thought it was great, and someone might
consider reposting it here.
