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Walking on campus:
Braddock:"Do you know where Nielson Hall is?"
Braddock: "Thanks, I gotta run, but it was nice meeting you. I'm Braddock."
Shake her hand and then walk away with your value intact. Even if she doesn't remember you the next time she sees you, you are better off than if you tried to game to hard when the timing wasn't just right and she rejects you. It can be hard to recover from a true cold approach rejection in social circle game.
Why would I recommend that you merely open and then eject without pushing for the number? That goes against everything you've learned through cold approach. Does it sound like I'm telling you to pussy out and not close? That's not exactly what I'm saying. If she likes you and you are ejecting because you are scared to ask for her number well......That's a different post.
However, tactically ejecting is not a cop out, it's the proper move if you sense that attempting to ask for her number or a date would be to much. In our Social Circle Mastery seminar Mr. M and I call this tactic "Getting Sticky." Getting sticky is an old advertising term used to describe a crucial phase where a product must be seen multiple times by consumers in order for them to remember what it is and what it does just by hearing the name. They say that consumers need to be exposed to a product in one form or another at least 6 times before it will be remembered.
If you had high situational value when you met then she will likely remember you and welcome you as part of her social circle almost immediately. If you met in a situation where you were of low or neutral value than you may need to meet a few times or she will have to here about you several times before you are even on her radar.
This is why cold approach is so tough. You have an extremely small window of time to prove that you are a high value scarce resource. If you fail to be seen in such a light her mind will not focus any mental energy on you. Regardless of outcome, mathematically you are better off to push the encounter as far as possible even if your value is not optimal.
It is essentially a waste of your time to not see if you can get her number or bounce her that night because you will most likely never see her again. Because you will never see her again who gives a shit if you cause irreversible damage with one random set? You will never see them again so it does not matter. That blow out cannot have long term effects on your overall social status.
You can always turn up the heat later when the timing is perfect. I.E. When you are sticky, meaning she now knows who you are and would at minimum say hi if she saw you out or on campus, and you have high situational value. Meaning she sees you in an environment where her eyes can see that you are a high value guy.
This means she sees you as one of the cool guys in a high value group of guys and/or she sees cool/hot girls respond positively to you. This doesn't mean she needs to see you making out with girls. It means seeing you with girls, talking to girls, girl buddies running up and hugging you. Situational value can be, and usually is, all smoke and mirrors.
This means it doesn't even have to be real. It could literally be girls hugging you that like you as a friend whom you have no chance in hell with. However, to an outside eye it looks like maybe you could have those girls. I'm not going to detail how to game once you are in the social circle in this post. It's covered in great detail in our seminar. I want this to focus on opening and becoming sticky.
"What sort of openers would you use in a regular college setting (i.e walking across campus first few days see a hot girl)?"
On a true cold approach in a college setting I always used situational openers or functional openers. They aren't sexy, but they ensure that you won't be called out for "gaming," which is crucial in a small fish bowl setting such as a college campus. Normal openers can and will work, but if you ever get caught by the wrong girl it has potential to do irreversible damage to your social status in the eyes of that girl and any girl in her social circle.
Girls studying in the library:
Braddock:"Do you know what time this place closes?"
Girls standing somewhere:
Braddock: "You look really familiar. Did we have class together last semester?"
Then I would transition into normal conversation and/or tease her lightly. Remember you will likely see her again either on campus or out at a party or bar so don't try to push things to fast or too far unless you get the vibe that she is really into you. In that case I would go for her phone number right there.
However, if you feel any discomfort on her part or if you feel that it would be pushing it to go for the number or date then just back off and say,
It obviously doesn't take 6 times for you to remember someone you just met, but it might take 6 times for you to see them and greet them as a person you now see as a card carrying member of your social circle. This is especially true for people that meet you when you are unavoidably in a low or neutral value situation. You remember people who are of substantial value or of potential value. Obviously the less real or potential value perceived by that girl will determine how long the sticky phase will last.
Social circle game is much easier and it is much different. You can build your value over time and strike at the perfect moment. If situationally your value is low in one situation you can wait it out and escape without losing value and live to fight another day when your value is optimal. If there is a high probability that she will see you again then you can build your value and comfort over multiple encounters instead of going for the cold approach mind set of "home run or strikeout."
That means if you are cold approaching on campus and it's a cold set or it's a girl that you don't have much time or value to work with, then just use the first encounter to "get sticky" and get on her radar.
Example of how to become sticky through cold approach....
Braddock:"You look really familiar, were you in Dr. Smith’s politics of South America class last semester?"
Her: "No. I'm a journalism major."
Braddock: "Hmm....Are you sure because you look like thaat girl who cheated off me all the time? I meant to tell you that I didn't appreciate that."
Her: "haha...Nope wasn't me."
Braddock: "That's Cool. Sorry about that. Alright, I'll see you around." (Take two steps away) "O shit, what's your name by the way? I'm Braddock."
Her: "Katie."
Braddock: "Nice to meet you Katie. I'm sure I'll see you around."
Her: "Nice to meet you too. Bye."
Hope this helps......
