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A lot of guys who are on this site come here because they have been sucked into relationships early before learning more about attraction and before having much experience with many different women in general. So they get dumped by their girl and find this site. It's like the first girl they sleep with becomes a long and drawn out relationship regardless as to whether or not there is a legitimate connection.
My experience is the opposite. Before I started posting on this site, I was into picking up girls. In fact, I had a long history of trying to pick up girls wherever I could even as a young teen. Not until 2004, my first year in college, did I discover David DeAngelo material and begin developing practical skills at picking up girls. Beforehand, I just flew by the seat of my pants which ironically is often better than coming off as a creep with a transparent technique that you've used a billion times.
Back then I was 19, and my first priority was to have #### for the first time. I made a commitment to myself that the next opportunity I had, I was going to take it all the way.
That summer I did just that. I went on a cruise vacation with my parents and had my own cabin. I met a little blonde girl in the dance club and seduced her using the secret kino spot technique. During the whole time of the seduction, I kept thinking of David Deangelo's e-book. Words and phrases from that book echoed in my head as I lead this girl back to my room and had #### with her for the first time. Although I was nervous, I was proud of myself that I set a goal and accomplished it on my own. I got a lot of ####ual confidence from this experience, so I got into the game hardcore after that.
Between 2004 and 2007 there was dozens upon dozens of girls I either had one night stands with or partial flings with. I remember a few girls I snuck into my room at night when I was still living at home with my folks. I remember club #### with a Russian girl who had a tattoo of a jaguar on her mons pubis. I remember LMR with girls who had boyfriends. Sleazy» girls, poor waitresses, a girl engineering student, a 17 year old girl who's boyfriend looked like Dimebag Darrell, a teacher, a rich Mexican girl with a nice big ass who lived with her parents in the suburbs, a hostess ho who bathed in the attention of white collar orbiters and slept with losers, a sorority girl, a poor waitress with K-mart shoes, and an endless stack of phone numbers, flakes, disappointments, and outright rejections.
In 2007, there was one rejection I'll never forget. Basically I got LMR from a girl and from that point afterward she ignored my phone calls. I was clueless as to why so I sent a text saying she was being weird and then she texts back and tells me straight out that I "know nothing about girls" and that she thought my "palm reading" technique was "lame". It was obvious that she caught on to my PU techniques and it was very embarrassing to be confronted with my own weaknesses through such a a harsh rejection.
I took this rejection pretty bad because at the time, this girl was very interested and made me give up my number after I told her I didn't want to deal with another flaky girl I met at a bar. She was hot as #### too.
It was at that point that I decided to drop out of the game completely and focus on finishing school and getting a job so that I could pursue girls more once I got situated into my own apartment.
Once I got a job and moved out, I hit the clubs again full throttle. I was just going all out and having no standards. I'd dance with a girl, do the kino spot and next thing I know she was making out with me. This happened so much and I had such a difficult time extracting girls from the club to my house because I lived 15 miles from downtown.
So, this went on until the end of 2007 when I made out with some skank and all my friends laughed at me and told me I had to have been drunk. I blamed it on the darkness of the club and honestly the girl was not totally ugly - she was good enough for a drunken #### but that's about it.
At that point I realized that this club game was not working out and I was being desperate. I used to think I was The Man for being able to score with random girls at clubs on any given night, wearing pretty much anything and not shaving, etc. just because I was bold enough, drunk enough, and desperate enough to try it. The reality was that I was only de-valuing myself, embarrassing myself, and spreading germs. Basically being a gigolo except not even getting paid.
Once again, I decided to re-evaluate my approach to picking up girls. That's when I read Paul Janka's book from a link through this site.
Paul Janka's philosophy changed my whole life. It was literally all about meeting as many women as possible and either sleeping with them or screening them out. The idea was to meet them at unsuspecting, everyday places too.
This was the perfect game plan and I was so inspired to get back in the game and accomplish the underlying goal of my whole career in picking up girls - to find the right girl for me and have a deep ####ual relationship with. I knew what I wanted and meeting a ####load of women helped me find that. I was craving some kind of passionate connection with a woman. I wanted to capture a girl's heart, mind and soul. Above all I wanted to get this with THE girl that I wanted - all my choice.
Sure enough it happened, and I look back on 2008 as being one of the best years of my whole life.
Having the right girlfriend has actually made me become a more virtuous person, and I no longer struggle with the frustration that I once did. I had a lot of angst before, but now life is fine. I've moved on, my philosophy has extended beyond the typical rules into something deeper.
For me, learning how to pick up girls was like a long bridge from adolescence to manhood. I don't spend my weekends at bars anymore, smoking and drinking my life away trying to score with a random girl. I don't have ####ual frustration getting in the way of the other important things in my life, like my career, my family, my hobbies and my friends.
It's like David D said in 2004 when I first started getting into this stuff:
Your end goal is not always something you are conscious of, but you should always look for the next bridge until you can fully understand what it is you want.
In the beginning, my goal was to get ####ual experience. The next goal was to find the right girl for me to have ####ual intimacy with. Now I'm on a bridge to someplace else and don't know where it's headed, but I am optimistic.
Cheers to 2008, 2009 and life beyond...
Picking up girls is a lot like skateboarding. You work hard to do a few simple tricks and from there you get good. But where do you go from there? You either go pro and get paid or you keep getting bruised up over a few short thrills. You eventually quit and move on, but you still look at park benches and cement staircases as a place to turn a trick. You continue to see things differently. It's the same thing with picking up girls - you can't stay in the game forever without some type of goal or direction. There's too many other things to do with your time than spend it constantly chasing girls. It gets boring and sometimes tiring.
