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I notice a big trend going on. Right now RSD nation is making a big splash and I notice also that on this forum guys are mostly plugging being real natural and inner game» stuff.
In fact the community has been moving in this direction for some time.
Im not sure if it's an effort to become more mainstream and make more money or not.
I want to get your perspectives. You see I am not someone who dabbled in the old school stuff.
I went at it 100 percent. I have listened to almost ALL of David Deangelo's programs multiple times. Same with Mystery. Same with Oldschool RSD stuff and all Tylers super analytical manipulative stuff. Im a HUGE fan of swinggcat.
I don't consider myself to be at the top of the mountain yet, and I don't even consider myself manipulative. I have found a way to incorporate that stuff into my personality. The only time it is not a part of what i do is when it comes time to get to know the girl a little, vibe, be low key.
Of course at some point all the little tips and tricks they teach me tend to grow old and the relationship must evolve and I still have issues with that, because my core persona is usually not nearly as confident, self assured, cocky, creative, interesting.
This mostly being because my lifestyle is a bit of a drag at this point and also just because my inner game» is not the best .. Im still trying to replace my last true love .. which was over 3 years ago .. where i turned into a total chode and had to have her endure some failures in my personal life. This made me insecure and chode like towards her as I was insecure of how she thought of me because I was not the man I once was and the promise of my success was not the same.
Let me get to the point.
It seems to me that the thing with this community now is to totally just forget everything we ever learned here from these forefathers. I mean not totally .. but to not consciously do any of it and to just BE. When I just BE authentic and real and expressive and have real high ideals and spiritual inner game» and yada yada.
It's like you just be a guy with high self esteem and all these inner game» traits and any tactics or lines or any of that is weak now. Cocky funny is weak now. Push/pull is weak now.
To me this just seems not only impossible (because I went at internalizing and practicing this shit at 100 percent) but also a factor of the community being 75 percent noobs now, who never really even learned that shit to begin with.
Is it being wiped out and replaced because of evolution .. as in they found it is not as effective or is it just a matter of a lot of posters now who just were not around for that shit and don't understand it's power?
I still do it, and I have found that over time it works better and better for me, I am weaker in some area's than others .. but for me to throw it all down the toilet and start fresh with this entirely new perspective just seems a bit black and white.
Why can't I work on developing my inner game» and core confidence and all that shit while still believing in all the outer game stuff that was taught? Why are their so many posters (some of which oldschool community guys) who are looking down on us oldschool guys? Is it because they never learned it or practiced it enough to find that it works? Is it because many who embrace the idea of trashing all that shit as not working doing so because they didn't give it 100 percent and just think because it didn't work for them that it doesn't work? Or is there something else to this.
I want to hear your takes on it. The Blueprint dropped and I realize it turned on all the oldschool stuff. I've listened to that program. Is that what this is about?
When I look at the stuff that is being taught now I think that yeah .. maybe if I was JUST getting into this and ALL i had for reference was all this natural inner game» shit that it might work really well for me and that it would solve a lot of problems that the older more outer game shit causes .. but that's not the case. This stuff is ingrained in me, internalized in me, and I have many reference experiences with it working for me. Yes it can cause a lot of hangups but when it comes to getting a girl attracted the stuff is like atom bombs.
I just want to get your takes on this whole movement and whats going on here and what I should do about it when it comes to my own path.
Hey guys
