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Recent post by TVA_Oslo, February 20, 2009

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(nb: i shared lot's of examples on sexual reframing, if you got the idea fast feel free to skip them, but by reading them i promese you a 100% understanding of the sexual reframing)

If you followed my previous guide on sex talk, where i talked about transtioning into sex talk we will now hand over to sexual reframing, but also how to deliver sex talk, and some small advices.

So let's start

How do you deliver sex talk.

True_Ace said this in a reply to my post.

"To comment on Slate's question, from my past experience, if you're comfortable talking about sex, they will generally follow your lead. Assuming enough rapport and connection has been made through the conversation. I guess you could say the trick is to make it sound like it's an everyday thing."

This is very true, as long as you talk about sex in a confident, way, and being relaxed, and comfortable about it, the women will be comfortable with too.

Remember this... before talking about sex, for getting best result and less disturbance, cockblock or freak outs, i highly, really highly recommend to be isolated somehwere with a chicka palce were you bot can talk, which shouldn't be too loud. A place were you can assume raport.
Also a place were you won't be disturbed too much.
This is for nightgame.
For daygame, just sit down and have chat which you will transition into sex talk.
Or when she is at your place, just sit down on your sofa, and talk about it!

Here is some more advices:
_ Stay/sit close to her for talking about sex
_ Be relaxed, and comfortable
_ When you try to make a "point" on a sex topic, maintain EC... or you can give ec sometimes, but you know that too much EC is creepy ( exception: when you try to build sexual tension on the dancefloor )
_ About kino, just do some light kino on shoulder upper arm, some so called social kino. That something you should when you do the seuxal reframing which is a technique based on removign bad toughts on sex, asd, and remove pressure around sex. Then when you go to sexual pricing, which is abotu makignh er want you sexually you can amp up to a more sexual escalation kind of kino.

Now let's move to sexual reframing.

Sexual reframing is abotu reframign sex as not a big deal (yeah protected sex isn't a big deal)
Women loves sex as much as men, even more, but they have social pressure and conseuqences from sex, and that's why they will hide it.
When a women freaks out when being sexual with you are you being sexual with her (also when she gives lmr) it's called ASD, which is a defence system a women have agaisnt getting sexual, aka gettign called a slut, or a hooker.
A female does care about her social repu (most of them does, exception freaks, follwoing dogsoldiers guide on different kind of women in masterminds).

So sexual reframing is based on start talkign about sex, as not a big deal, and why it's a not a big deal.
It's important to mention that you are ocnsicous on the social consequences a women have around sex, and tell her how you solve those consequences, and how you avoid that women get them. It's also important to mention how much women loves sex, and that a man which doesn't give social consequences out of sex, makes the sex even better for both.
Last thing mention how you avoid them, like why you isoalte, why you do not try to make out with her infront of other people and why you shut up, and do not talk abotu who you fucked to toehr guys (answer: because it's your life and that you don't need male attention, or any needs for "bragging" to other men, kind of bullshit for me cuz i post lr's hahaha).

So the purpose of this is make her comfortable, this is a the plot of then gettign into seuxal prizing which is based on making her want to fuck you, which is the REAL sex talk, but often if you get into sex talk out of the blue you might get some freak outs (also called asd).
So sexual refaming is about building comfort around sex, and make you also more ocmfortable talking about sex, since she is comfortable about it, the main goal is talkign abotu sex the same way as you would talk about any other conversation topics.

Now let's get into some examples.

first example from a lr from heat:
(link to his lr)

"I talked to my two girl all the time, and put up a sexuall frame as soon as I opened my mouth.

Exs: Sex is a totally natural thing, personally I think that girls are even more horny than us boys, You are just hiding it because of social consicvences. Therefor, I mean that it is my responsibility as a man to keep it secret.

The two girls startet talking about sex they aswell that They really ment the same thing as me and they said numberless of times that I was such a smart guy who thinked about sex in a such way."

Example from a lr of mine:

"TVA»: yeah i know you like to have somoene to sleep with, it's in your nature. (whispered in her ear of course)
HBhandball: It is! I especially love to be holded when i am sleeping.
TVA»: yeah it's pretty sexual it's great.
HBhandball: yeah!"

Another one:

"I spin her around so that her back is facing me. I talk into her ear, not loud of course.
TVA»: you know guys are out there, drinking trying to be cool, but we all know what they want...
HBblond: Yeah it's chicks no?
TVA»: yes, actually a man shouldn't do anything to have sex with her, because women wants sex too, but most men don't know the real truth about what women want.
HBblond: yeah definatly.

TVA»: women are more into wild stuff than guys knows, women doesn't complain about how a man is physically in bed, but about his attitude, like he ain't confident abotu what he does, because he is always asking "is that good, can i do this, and this on you".

This line is sexual prizing btw, just chimmed it in into the convo, this part will be covered in the next sex talk guide!


"HBblond: i know! you are so right (smiling)
TVA»: you know what, men also doesn't understand that women can get bad repu about having too much sex, yeah i know fucking society is lame, but anyway, nothing i can do about it, then keeping my mounth shut about who i fuck, and anyway it's my life why do i need to share my privat life with anyone?
HBblond: Good boy, you have understood a lot about females!! (carresing my face, not strange call me boy, i am younger than her... but not much one grade over me at school!)"

Last example:

"TVA»: you know what, i know this sounds weird, but i don't see why being interested in sexuality is anything wrong, it's something we all love, we all enjoy right?
HB: yes of course, i agree!
TVA»: well you wont really be 100% honest with me because if you talk to sexually infront of your friends, you will be called a slut, you are hiding you inner sexual beast, and not only you every one of your friends..
HB: (giving me the look like if i were a genius)
Yeah, well it depends...
TVA»: No, everygirls loves sex, because if not i wouldnt be here, you wouldnt either, women and males loves sex as much, it's just that women, in our society got called out for being sluts if they sleep with too many guys, and guys if they sleep with many girls they are like cool...
HB: i know, its so annoying, it's not fair.
TVA»: yeah i know, but you know this doesn't affect me, because if i have sex with a chick, i want to keep it for myself, it's my life, also it's cool, because womens feels more comfortable, when they know they don't get the pressure
HB: That sound like a really good plan (smiling) (now my sigarette is finished)
TVA»: thanks for your cigarette you are lovely, sometimes...
HB: "

So now you get the idea.
Now you can transtion into sexual prizing which i posted about already but i weill get further into it with examples, and more how to use it advices.

Note: after done the sexual reframing you removed pressure around sex and her asd, which allow you to escalate into sex, so your choise now is: Doing it verbally with sexual prizing which is very powerful or do it physically, by just escalating into sex, since you will get less freaks out and lmr.
This is a choice you have to do yourself, depending on what you feel for, or the situ you are sarging in (environement and so on...)

Questions?
Part 3 coming out tomorow!

TVA»

Edit: This creates safety and comfort around sex, sex is physiological needs in Maslows hierarchy of needs, and comfort and safety is the second most important need a person have! So now you have this one covered too!

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