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This is something i feel is key for my game.
NB: I use words as sexual prizing, and reframing. These are explained in previous posts of mine. They are both explained here:
http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=6&mn=1232845644535741&refine=subject%3Dsexual%2520prizing%26author%3D%26datefrom%3D%26body%3D%26dateto%3D
On to the post now...
The behaviour, and outcome you get of people is based on the way they perceive you. If they perceive you as a nerd, they threat you as a nerd, if they perceive you as a cool populare guy, they will threat you as a cool populare guy (they will look up on you). If they perceive you as there BF, they will threat you like a bf.
The sexual guy, is the one i am following, simply because it gives you quick lays more effectively. Being the one giving her sex, you are controlling a physiological need which is full compliance.
A women loves penis, but a girl won't have the sex she really likes (mind you that all the sex women likes is often more kinky than socially accepted, same for men), this is why, she won't do it with her BF. Simply because she cares too much about him, and think she might lose him for it. A kind of M/W complexe comes up.
She needs a guy with who she can release herself. These guys are RARE. Most guys will accept her fantasies, not everyone but many. Still SHE feels, or think that the man won't like it, so she won't release herself. Even if she really wants to!
She really want to. Same as a man want it. This is why he looks at porn, this is why he even does it in a relationship!!!
Also another thing, a girl won't release herself sexually out of ASD. She won't do many of these things, because as i said earlier, what really arouse is not always socially accepted. She is affraid of what people will think of her. This is especially outside a relationship for ons's. The relationship was an example. She is also affraid of what people will think. Even when she have a ons with a guy, she will not turn kinky.
So what you are doing is framing yourself as her sex toy. Her human sex toy.
First use basic sexual reframe (not required, calibrate depending on the girl you are with!) make her know that everything is between you too. Explain her that sex is natural (see sex talk guide part 2) and also getting some raport first won't hurt.
Now into how to be framed as the secret lover!
some examples would be (they are VERY easy to improvise if you know how to reframe in general)
The deal is, not reframe sex, for removing her social ASD. Like the sexual reframing (see sex talk guide part 2) were you mostly talk about sex as not a big deal socially! Like make her feel that you are a safe sex partner (talk about safe sex... and condom use!) and talk about your knowledge of women in the society, girls getting called sluts, and how you avoid it to happen. And the last one, how much women needs sex as much as men, and sex as natural.
This is more in depth. This is about making her feel safe, as making her RELEASE herself sexually with you. Completly!
You will now be worth a lot for her, a sexual prizing effect will be created because she will feel that she can finally release herself! Oh i forgot the sex will be much better when you fuck her!
So the deal with this is that you are perceived as her secret lover! the lover with who she can release herself! and who she feels safe doing it, who she wants to fuck (use sexual prizing, look sex talk guide part 3!) and the one who she won't have social consequences for fucking (sexual reframing as creating safety in her, as an ASD remover)
You become her secret lover!
Her toy!
I wish her to have great fun toying with you from now
Hope you got value from it! I will post an lr as an example of this from a club pu in poland were i outbeat the AFC guys who paid her drinks, and who were nice with her, as her fucking me, and then having a date with the dude the next day, i will also show you how crazy she got while fucking. She beated me up while fucking i had blood all over my face. So read the lr (coming in a few days) for getting a bigger image of it.
Recap for framing yourself as her secret lover:
Have fun, and good luck
She now perceive you as her secret lover, no one knows anything about what she is doing, she can do almost what she want, she get the sex she likes! good deal!
Questions and comments welcome
Back from poland. I was thinking posting an lr, but i prefered sharing som pu stuff.
If they perceive you as a sexual guy, they will threat you as a sexual guy.
With congruens tell her some sick sex stories, for making her FEEL that she isn't alone enjoying crazy stuff. The main point is to make her see you are a guy who also like stuff who aren't always socially accepted. It also, if you deliver with congruens this will show her that you know what you want and that you go for it, which is an attractive trait. This will open her up. Then add some reframes to make her feel it as no big deal.
_ Ah you know everyone have sex fantasies anyway, accept it or not they are still there.
_ It's so sad people can't just release themselves! think about all the fun they won't do!
_ Nah every people like sick stuff anyway!
_ Most people doesn't accept it, because they follow the flow, i love everything about sex, because sex is a natural thing, and sex is something we all love! I accept everything!
_ Release yourself (in a seductive voice) it will make you good!(more direct one)
_ You see, all the porn how kinky it can be? all the litteratur as well! this means most people likes it, unless you like god more, and will be stuck in a monastere for the rest of your life! (added a funny twist in this one)
_ Sex story (if you want to, not needed) for showing her, that you also do sick stuff. (post coming on sex stories and how to deliver, it also makes her visualize
how you are in bed, and often will create a sexual prizing)
_ Use lines for making her feel that that you accept most of her sex fantasies and needs
_ Talk freely about the most kinky shit ever, debate about it, or don't wait for escalating to the lay!
